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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 4:11PM #16361
thespaceinvader
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Also worth saying that.

I have an at-will that slides and I'm using polearm momentum is very different from I have an at-will that slides.

However, worth considering that Flail+flail exp+lashing+dragging =slide-prone on MBAs and any attack which already slides or prones.
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 4:11PM #16362
Koshinuke
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What is the at will? It is kind of hard to optimize something without knowing what exactly is being optimized.
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 5:53PM #16363
Last_Abyss
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What does Painful Oath do?
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 5:58PM #16364
Naflem
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Jan 8, 2013 -- 5:53PM, Last_Abyss wrote:

What does Painful Oath do?





Painful Oath


Paragon Tier
Prerequisite: 11th level, avenger, oath of enmity power
Benefit: The first time you hit your oath of enmity target each turn, you deal extra radiant and necrotic damage equal to your Wisdom modifier.

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 9:00PM #16365
Bohrdumb
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Am I right in understanding that Sentinel pets don't get instinctive actions?
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 9:59PM #16366
Valanthe
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Jan 8, 2013 -- 4:11PM, thespaceinvader wrote:

Also worth saying that.

I have an at-will that slides and I'm using polearm momentum is very different from I have an at-will that slides.

However, worth considering that Flail+flail exp+lashing+dragging =slide-prone on MBAs and any attack which already slides or prones.




I was trying to avoid having such a lengthy question that it stopped being simple, but it seems that I've gone too far the opposite way.

 Alright.  I'm a Battlemind|Warlock using Heavy Blade Opportunity, Mark of Storms and Brutal Barrage to get an OA that slides and prones, and it's obviously still an At-Will.  

Other relevant information is I'm using Unarmed Strike (from Monk Multiclass) as my off-hand for TWOpening and TWFlurry for extra damage, and melegaunt's darkblade for 19-20 crit range.

However, I've read in multiple places (like the Warlock Handbook) that there's a lot of At-Will slide abuse.  All I knew about was Deadly Draw, Polearm Momentum and Flail tricks.  Is there anything that may be relevant I'm missing? 

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 11:01PM #16367
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Not being alowed to TWO with MUS when using a 2H, for starters.
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2013 - 12:29AM #16368
thespaceinvader
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Jan 8, 2013 -- 9:00PM, Bohrdumb wrote:

Am I right in understanding that Sentinel pets don't get instinctive actions?



You are.

They will act if you are not present or are unable to command them (UNconscious definitely, Stunned possibly) according to the rules in the book (one action of your choice IIRC), but they are not Druid summon powers, they don't get instinctives.

Jan 8, 2013 -- 9:59PM, Valanthe wrote:

Jan 8, 2013 -- 4:11PM, thespaceinvader wrote:

Also worth saying that.

I have an at-will that slides and I'm using polearm momentum is very different from I have an at-will that slides.

However, worth considering that Flail+flail exp+lashing+dragging =slide-prone on MBAs and any attack which already slides or prones.




I was trying to avoid having such a lengthy question that it stopped being simple, but it seems that I've gone too far the opposite way.

 Alright.  I'm a Battlemind|Warlock using Heavy Blade Opportunity, Mark of Storms and Brutal Barrage to get an OA that slides and prones, and it's obviously still an At-Will.  

Other relevant information is I'm using Unarmed Strike (from Monk Multiclass) as my off-hand for TWOpening and TWFlurry for extra damage, and melegaunt's darkblade for 19-20 crit range.

However, I've read in multiple places (like the Warlock Handbook) that there's a lot of At-Will slide abuse.  All I knew about was Deadly Draw, Polearm Momentum and Flail tricks.  Is there anything that may be relevant I'm missing? 



Better.  Posting a long quetion with all of the information is not a bad thing.

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2013 - 8:19AM #16369
Valanthe
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Jan 8, 2013 -- 11:01PM, Zathris wrote:

Not being alowed to TWO with MUS when using a 2H, for starters.




Wait, what?  I see MUS requires a free hand.  But I'm using a scimitar... does something I'm using require a 2H and I'm missing it?

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2013 - 8:27AM #16370
Lathaen-V
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All the feats that require druid, wild shape that state while you are in beast form...
Do those work while under the effect of the Were-themed beast forms when used as the hybrid form @ level 10?
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