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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 9:43AM #15561
ZeusOverlord
Date Joined: Oct 20, 2012
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Nov 16, 2012 -- 9:38AM, Fardiz wrote:

Master at arms and spear expertise both give feat bonuses that do not stack. Usually a charge only gives you +1 to hit.

So your to hit bonus would be 4[str]+1[feat]+2[prof]+1[charge]+2[power] = +10 and then you can add an extra +4 once per encounter with heroic effort.

If you charge into combat advantage you would get the extra +2.

Slayers get their dex mod to damage. So a MBA for 1[W]+Str is actually 1[W]+str+dex =1d10+4+3 = 1d10+7.

Hope that helps.
 




Fantastic! That does help a lot. So if master at arms and spear expertise don't stack there's no point in taking spear expertise other than getting a +1 to damage rolls on a charge.

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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 9:48AM #15562
Fardiz
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2010
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I would reverse that. You want spear expertise as your main expertise because +1/tier damage on the charge is worth more than the ability to switch weapons easily on a charging slayer.
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 9:54AM #15563
ZeusOverlord
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Nov 16, 2012 -- 9:48AM, Fardiz wrote:

I would reverse that. You want spear expertise as your main expertise because +1/tier damage on the charge is worth more than the ability to switch weapons easily on a charging slayer.


That would make sense. Once I'm in close I can use my move and a minor to switch weapons, though I'd have to wait for the next turn to change stance.

Can you recommend a better feat than master at arms?

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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 10:34AM #15564
Fardiz
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You want to charge every turn.

As soon as you can, pick up a badge of the berserker (a neck slot magic item), this allows you to charge without provoking opportunity attacks. 
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 11:10AM #15565
LordOfWeasels
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2009
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Nov 16, 2012 -- 9:54AM, ZeusOverlord wrote:

Can you recommend a better feat than master at arms?




Surprising Charge should be your second Feat as a charging slayer.  Your third Feat should be "Superior Weapon Proficiency: Gouge"

(You might not qualify for Surprising Charge yet, because your Dex might only be 16.  In that case, take Gouge Proficiency now and Surprising Charge at level 4 when you raise your Dex and Strength)

Confused about Stealth?  Think "invisibility" means "take the mini off the board to make people guess?"  You need to check out The Rules Of Hidden Club.

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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 1:26PM #15566
VikingMentality
Date Joined: Jul 22, 2012
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Hello, I am making a new character a Psion Sharmind which I am excited about. I did have a couple questions though:

Shaped Consciousness -  

Does this vessel provoke Attacks of Opportunity? Can I also make an opportunity attack with this vessel? 

Summon Thought Servant - 

How many hit points does this summon have? How do I figure out how many Hitpoints my summons have?

Crushing Turmoil -

When it states saving through, does this include an AC save? 
Hit: 1d8 + Intelligence modifier psychic damage, and the target takes a -2 penalty to the next saving throw it makes before the end of your next turn.

Staff of Striking -
Can this be used by the shaped conciousness if the enemy is adjasent to the shaped consiousness? 
Trigger: You hit a creature adjacent to you with an implement or a weapon attack using this staff.

Templar Theme -
Can I take this as a psion? and if so:
Reward the Obedient -
If the enemy dies when an ally attacks the enemy and ends their turn this ability will not work correct? 
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 1:27PM #15567
Salla
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To answer the easy one, #3, there's no such thing as an AC save, so no.
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 3:03PM #15568
LordOfWeasels
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2009
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Nov 16, 2012 -- 1:26PM, VikingMentality wrote:

Hello, I am making a new character a Psion Sharmind which I am excited about. I did have a couple questions though:

Shaped Consciousness -  

Does this vessel provoke Attacks of Opportunity? Can I also make an opportunity attack with this vessel?




No, and no.  It's a conjuration.  It does exactly what it says it does, and what the rules for Conjurations say it does.

Nov 16, 2012 -- 1:26PM, VikingMentality wrote:


Summon Thought Servant - 

How many hit points does this summon have? How do I figure out how many Hitpoints my summons have?




Check out the rules for the Summoning keyword.

Nov 16, 2012 -- 1:26PM, VikingMentality wrote:


Crushing Turmoil -

When it states saving through, does this include an AC save?




There is no such thing as an "AC save".  Nor, before you ask, a Reflex Save, Will Save, or Fortitude Save.  Those things do not exist.  They are un-concepts.

A penalty to saving throws only applies to saving throws.  The rules for saves are very clear about what is a saving throw.

(To forestall a common question:  Yes, a death saving throw is a saving throw.)

Nov 16, 2012 -- 1:26PM, VikingMentality wrote:


Staff of Striking -
Can this be used by the shaped conciousness if the enemy is adjasent to the shaped consiousness? 
Trigger: You hit a creature adjacent to you with an implement or a weapon attack using this staff.




"You can see, hear, and use psion powers as if you were in your fragment’s space" does not mean you ARE in the space.  So no - if the creature is adjacent to the fragment and not to you, you can't use the Staff Of Striking power.

Nov 16, 2012 -- 1:26PM, VikingMentality wrote:

Templar Theme -
Can I take this as a psion? and if so:
Reward the Obedient -
If the enemy dies when an ally attacks the enemy and ends their turn this ability will not work correct? 




Nothing says you can't take Templar, so you can, as long as your DM approves a Dark Sun theme.

As for the power:  Eh, unclear.  Normally you're not "adjacent to" a creature after it's dead, however:

1)  That power is not very strong to begin with, and it doesn't need an additional nerf.
2)  If your ally chose to knock the creature out and keep it alive at 0 HP, then he'd still be "adjacent" to the now-unconscious guy.

So, because the power isn't broken if you allow this, and because you can trivially meet the conditions in another way if you just remember to say something different, I see absolutely no problem with ruling that being adjacent to the creature's corpse counts as being adjacent to the creature for the purpose of this power.  I'm still making a judgement call, but I think it's a perfectly sensible one.

Anything else?

Confused about Stealth?  Think "invisibility" means "take the mini off the board to make people guess?"  You need to check out The Rules Of Hidden Club.

Damage types and resistances:  A working house rule.
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 6:49PM #15569
pete5528
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I've got a question about the Spellsoul Blade, which has the following as part of an encounter utility:

"Effect: Choose one damage type from the three selected when this weapon was created. All untyped damage dealt by weapon attacks using this weapon changes to the chosen type. This effect lasts until the end of your next rest, whether short or extended..."

Does this effect hold if you use a ki-focused attack with the weapon?  My understanding is no, but I just want to be sure because my understanding is often wrong.

EDIT: Also, my understanding is that the properties of a Mage's Weapon would still hold when making a ki-focused attack with it, as they do not apply directly to the attack or power being used, but rather to your weapon proficiencies?
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 8:02PM #15570
LordOfWeasels
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2009
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Nov 16, 2012 -- 6:49PM, pete5528 wrote:

I've got a question about the Spellsoul Blade, which has the following as part of an encounter utility:

"Effect: Choose one damage type from the three selected when this weapon was created. All untyped damage dealt by weapon attacks using this weapon changes to the chosen type. This effect lasts until the end of your next rest, whether short or extended..."

Does this effect hold if you use a ki-focused attack with the weapon?  My understanding is no, but I just want to be sure because my understanding is often wrong.




No.  When you use a Ki Focus, all magical properties of the non-Ki-Focus magic weapon are irrelevant.

Nov 16, 2012 -- 6:49PM, pete5528 wrote:

EDIT: Also, my understanding is that the properties of a Mage's Weapon would still hold when making a ki-focused attack with it, as they do not apply directly to the attack or power being used, but rather to your weapon proficiencies?





No.  When you use a Ki Focus, all magical properties of the non-Ki-Focus magic weapon are irrelevant.

Confused about Stealth?  Think "invisibility" means "take the mini off the board to make people guess?"  You need to check out The Rules Of Hidden Club.

Damage types and resistances:  A working house rule.
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