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I expect a resounding "No!" to this question.

I'm a Bard (really want War Chanter pp) in the epic tier. I want a way to pick up two warlord encounter powers (Hail of Steel and Insightful Assault) and two warlord dailies (Victory Surge and Warmaster's Assault). I've dropped the feats into MC'ing, but that only allows me to grab one of each.

Q: Is there a way to get everything that I want?

The problem: I believe I can only take Novice Power and Adept Power once each. If I go Warlord, there's no way for me to get the Virtue of Valor to get into War Chanter. And if I hybrid, I run into the problem of finding Str/Con as my two primary stats, though I think dumping Cha might work, it's not really the flavor I want to go for.

Dec 10, 2012 -- 12:14PM, ThatWasTotallyNinja wrote:

Eternal Seeker.

Thanks. I forgot about Eternal Seeker, but it was something that I considered yesterday. The problem comes in that my Str isn't high enough to make use of ... oh. I take the Str-based powers as my multiclass swaps, thus allowing me to use Charisma instead. I take the non-rolling powers from Eternal Seeker. It also opens up some other nice power-swap options, specifically in the utility section.

The main drawback is that I no longer get Spring the Trap from the Warmaster ED. However, we are 29 right now, so switching to Eternal Seeker at 30 would let me keep the Shock and Awe feature (when I spend an AP, give an ally an extra action on their turn). It doesn't help me for level 29, but I can keep going as-is for now, anyway.

I realize that I'm being picky, but I absolutely love Spring the Trap. It's not a power that I can trade for, however (24 utility while ES only allows level 22 utilities).

Do I have any other options? 

(But seriously, thanks for the suggestion, Ninja. I considered it yesterday but for some reason, when you suggested it, I figured out how to apply it in a better way.) 

Um...with a locked-in PP and ED, I think hybrid is the best option.

Bard|Warlord + Bracers of Mental Might shouldn't need any STR, especially in Epic. You use them on Hail of Steel, except the one battle that you use Victory Surge. Pretty sure that's the best you can get (also frees up some feats and opens up some really good Warlord utilities...and who doesn't like Combat Leader?).

Dec 10, 2012 -- 1:20PM, ThatWasTotallyNinja wrote:

Um...with a locked-in PP and ED, I think hybrid is the best option.

Bard|Warlord + Bracers of Mental Might shouldn't need any STR, especially in Epic. You use them on Hail of Steel, except the one battle that you use Victory Surge. Pretty sure that's the best you can get (also frees up some feats and opens up some really good Warlord utilities...and who doesn't like Combat Leader?).

Warmaster isn't exactly "locked in". I would consider replacing it should a better option not present itself. The pp, however, is locked in.

The bracers are a great idea. I like the idea of becoming a hybrid and using the bracers. My only /real/ concern at this point: is there a way to get the effect of the bracers twice in an encounter, even if only for once a day? I'd like to be able to use it on both Hail of Steel and Victory Surge, though if it's not possible, I might just cut my losses and go with Hail of Steel only (between the enc and daily, I choose the enc), and keep going with the "not as optimized" Satire of Evasion (bard 15) as my level 29 daily. Although, I could look to see if there's another warlord daily that allows multiple allies to attack without requiring me to hit with my attack. (Increase the Tempo being the Bard equivalent of what I am looking for.)

If you can't tell, I'm basically playing a leader who gives out insane bonuses (+10 to hit / +16 to damage) and keeps them up while then allowing my striker allies to multi-attack everything into oblivion. Our DM does not use the "one free action attack per turn" rule, so I try to stock up on allowing allies to make free action attacks.