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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 12:31PM
#15441
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Well, both come from the same source.
Monsters have defenses of around "Level+14" for AC, and "Level+12" for Non-Ac Defenses (NADs)
Monsters attack at "level+5" vs. AC, or "level+3" vs. NADs
Those numbers jitter around a little by role (+2 AC to soldiers, -2 to Brutes and Artillery. Some artillery can attack at +2, etc), monster fluff (many melee brutes get Fort boosts, but Ref penalties), and so on... But that's the starting point.
Edit: So: If you want to get missed most of the time, you need to have defenses in the general area of level+20 AC or level+18 NADs. Then you'll get hit on a 15+, and missed on lower. (Assuming at-level monsters).
If you want to hit most of the time, you'll need to get attacks in the genera area of level+9 vs AC, or level+7 vs NAD. Then you'll hit on a 5+ (assuming at-level monsters)
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 12:57PM
#15442
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Date Joined:
Oct 27, 2009
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Level 9 pally with heavy shield and +3 plate armor. No defense feats.
What should the AC of this character be? CB gives me 27 if wearing +3 Rimefire Plate Armor and 29 if wearing regular +3 Plate Armor???
thanks!
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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
King Lizard, level 9
Dragonborn, Paladin
Build: Avenging Paladin
Dragonborn Racial Power Option: Dragon Breath
Dragon Breath Key Ability: Dragon Breath Strength
Dragon Breath Damage Type: Dragon Breath Fire
Dragon Totem Warrior (+2 to Athletics)
Theme: Guardian
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 22, CON 12, DEX 12, INT 8, WIS 11, CHA 15
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 18, CON 12, DEX 12, INT 8, WIS 10, CHA 12
AC: 29 Fort: 22 Ref: 19 Will: 20
HP: 75 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 19
TRAINED SKILLS
Endurance +9, Heal +9, Intimidate +13, Religion +8
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +2, Arcana +3, Athletics +8, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +4, History +5, Insight +6, Nature +4, Perception +6, Stealth +1, Streetwise +6, Thievery +1
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Guardian Attack: Guardian's Counter
Dragonborn Racial Power: Dragon Breath
Paladin Feature: Divine Mettle
Paladin Feature: Divine Strength
Paladin Feature: Divine Challenge
Paladin Feature: Lay on Hands
Paladin Attack 1: Ardent Strike
Paladin Attack 1: Challenging Strike
Paladin Attack 1: Heedless Fury
Paladin Attack 1: Blood of the Mighty
Paladin Utility 2: Virtue
Paladin Attack 3: Righteous Smite
Paladin Attack 5: Frenzying Smite
Paladin Utility 6: Wrath of the Gods
Paladin Attack 7: Thunder Smite
Paladin Attack 9: Knightly Intercession
FEATS
Level 1: Weapon Proficiency (Bastard sword)
Level 2: Heavy Blade Expertise
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)
Level 6: Mighty Challenge
Level 8: Superior Will
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit
Heavy Shield x1
Sling
Vicious Bastard sword +3 x1
Lurtaan's Cord x1
Horned Helm (heroic tier) x1
Acrobat Boots x1
Badge of the Berserker +1 x1
Dwarven Rimefire Plate Armor +3
Dwarven Plate Armor +3 x1
====== End ======
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 12:59PM
#15443
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The CB automatically gives you the Masterwork bonus on armor, even if you don't actually select a specific type of masterwork armor.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 1:06PM
#15444
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Date Joined:
Oct 27, 2009
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Salla, thank you for your response. I don't see Masterwork in the glossary online. Does this provide a +2 AC bonus to compete with the special features of other armor (e.g. Rimefire having resist 1 all)? Is there a rules source? I'm pretty confused...
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 1:38PM
#15445
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Rimefire is a type of Masterwork Armor, as is Drakeplate, Godplate, etc. As of Essentials, all armor automatically gets the Masterwork AC bonus depending on it's Enh Bonus, though not all get the special Resist, or Defense Bonuses (though, you'd have to be a fool to not have one of the special ones)
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 1:40PM
#15446
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Date Joined:
Oct 27, 2009
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Thank you, so is it a CB error that the rimefire doesn't get the +2 AC?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 1:44PM
#15447
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By RAW, yes. By RAI, no, it gets its own benefit instead.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 1:57PM
#15448
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Date Joined:
Mar 31, 2010
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Does Traveler's Chant afford a bonus to speed that would be functional in combat encounters, or is it only things like overland travel and such?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 2:03PM
#15449
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Purely long term movement. It doesn't help on the tactical scale of combat encounters.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 2:23PM
#15450
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What would be average numbers at level 30 for:
Attack Rolls
AC
NADs
Average or optimized? PC or Monster?
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