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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 8:11AM #16791
baldhermit
Date Joined: Apr 3, 2010
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And you feel the loss of HBO is worth it ?
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 8:30AM #16792
Mommy_was_an_Orc
Date Joined: Apr 25, 2002
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 8:11AM, baldhermit wrote:

And you feel the loss of HBO is worth it ?




Generally, I'm not a big fan of HBO unless there's a way to self-generate opportunity attacks, such as through Polearm Gamble, you're a specific kind of Defender, or you know your DM is tactically inept in a way that he constantly generates OAs in attempts to get at specific targets.

Also, Nimble Blade is a very consistent additional +1 to hit, which can add up over time in terms of damage done.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 9:46AM #16793
Limond
Date Joined: Jun 18, 2008
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Looking for some theme help for my level 10 dwarven melee ranger MC avenger. I'm also looking for other tweaks I can make to him. I am playing him as a one shot. Things I want to keep are his race, axe wielding, and multiclass. Everything else is optional.

For themes I can't decide between Cipher, Ironwrough, Sohei, or one of the wereanimal themes (as I can get Claw Gloves). Or is there a theme that is better that I am overlooking?

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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Hadufuns, level 10
Dwarf, Ranger
Fighting Style Option: Two-Blade Fighting Style
Ranger Option: Running Attack
Auspicious Birth (Auspicious Birth Benefit)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 20, CON 15, DEX 14, INT 10, WIS 16, CHA 8

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 16, CON 13, DEX 14, INT 10, WIS 14, CHA 8


AC: 25 Fort: 23 Ref: 21 Will: 20
HP: 82 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 20

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +14, Dungeoneering +15, Endurance +15, Nature +13, Perception +13, Religion +10

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +6, Arcana +5, Bluff +4, Diplomacy +4, Heal +8, History +5, Insight +8, Intimidate +4, Stealth +6, Streetwise +4, Thievery +6

POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Dwarf Racial Power: Dwarven Resilience
Hunter's Quarry Power: Hunter's Quarry
Avenger Feature: Oath of Enmity
Ranger Attack 1: Twin Strike
Ranger Attack 1: Marauder's Rush
Ranger Attack 1: Off-Hand Strike
Ranger Attack 1: Jaws of the Wolf
Ranger Utility 2: Begin the Hunt
Ranger Attack 3: Ruffling Sting
Ranger Attack 5: Frenzied Skirmish
Ranger Utility 6: Death Threat
Ranger Attack 7: Lashing Leaves
Ranger Attack 9: Attacks on the Run
Ranger Utility 10: Resume the Hunt

FEATS
Toughness
Level 1: Axe Expertise
Level 2: Dwarven Weapon Training
Level 4: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 6: Two-Weapon Defense
Level 8: Disciple of Divine Wrath
Level 10: Armor Proficiency: Chainmail

ITEMS
Vicious Waraxe +2 x1
Carnage Waraxe +2 x1
Dwarven Chainmail +2 x1
Amulet of Protection +2 x1
Iron Armbands of Power (heroic tier) x1
====== End ======

 

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 9:50AM #16794
baldhermit
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I would suggest creating a thread for this. Doesn't seem like simple question, simple answer to me
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:05PM #16795
FinalLegendZero
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Do Defenders, Leaders, and Controllers have any objective measurements to determine whether they are functional (like the Striker damage benchmarks)?
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:13PM #16796
Last_Abyss
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If I took Eladrin Soldier, do I get proficiency with the Gouge?
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:14PM #16797
baldhermit
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 1:05PM, FinalLegendZero wrote:

Do Defenders, Leaders, and Controllers have any objective measurements to determine whether they are functional (like the Striker damage benchmarks)?


You already know the answer

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:16PM #16798
Bohrdumb
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2010
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 1:05PM, FinalLegendZero wrote:

Do Defenders, Leaders, and Controllers have any objective measurements to determine whether they are functional (like the Striker damage benchmarks)?





Not sure if there's an official one, but I would ponder something like "x number of creatures you can hard control per round."

X HCpR

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:30PM #16799
ezrider23
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2009
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Last_Abyss wrote:

If I took Eladrin Soldier, do I get proficiency with the Gouge?



Yup. It counts as a spear.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:36PM #16800
FinalLegendZero
Date Joined: Jun 19, 2012
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 1:14PM, baldhermit wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 1:05PM, FinalLegendZero wrote:

Do Defenders, Leaders, and Controllers have any objective measurements to determine whether they are functional (like the Striker damage benchmarks)?


You already know the answer




No, I don't. Why do you assume I do?

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