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9 months ago ::
May 22, 2009 - 7:56PM
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Half-Elf Rogue/Bard / Daggermaster / Dark Wanderer ...... Its Awesome.Dilettente Power: Twin Strike.
- +1 to Diplomacy
- Artful Dodger: Add Charisma to Def against OA
- +1 to attacks w/ Daggers
- Sneak Attack: extra 5d8 damage w/ CA
FINAL ABILITY SCORES Str 13, Con 15, Dex 24, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 26. STARTING ABILITY SCORES Str 11, Con 12, Dex 17, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 18. TRAINED SKILLS Athletics, Acrobatics, Bluff, Intimidate, Diplomacy, Stealth, and Theivery BACKGROUND Fugitive from a vengeful past: +1 Stealth and +1 bluff Sky Blue = feats/powers you definitely want to take.Blue = feats/powers you will benefit greatly from.Black = feats/powers you can take or leave.Purple = feats/powers you can skip. (I don't have any)Red = feats/powers you can avoid like the plague. (I don't have any) FEATS
- Level 1: Bardic Dilettante
- Level 2: Distant Advantage
- Level 4: Backstabber
- Level 6: Weapon Expertise (Light Blade)
- Level 8: *Your Choice* / Melee Training (Lvl 14)
- Level 10: Combat Virtuoso
- Level 11: Versatile Master
- Level 12: Two Weapon Fighting
- Level 14: Two Weapon Opening
- Level 16: Nimble Blade
- Level 18: Paragon Defenses / Robust Defenses (Lvl 22)
- Level 20: Rogue Weapon Mastery / Triumphant Attack (Lvl 21)
- Level 21: Martial Mastery
- Level 22: Multiclass Mastery Multiclass Mastery: Acolyte: Invisible Troupe Multiclass Mastery: Novice or Adept:your choice (if any)
- Level 24: Epic Resurgence
- Level 26: Swift Blade Style
- Level 28: Rogue Weapon Mastery
- Level 30: Weapon Focus
POWERS
- Rogue at-will 1: Deft Strike
- Rogue at-will 1: Sly Flourish
- Rogue encounter 1: Positioning Strike
- Rogue daily 1: Blinding Barrage or Press the Advantage Rogue utility 2: Fleet Ghost
- Rogue encounter 3: Low Slash
- Rogue daily 5: Downward spirial or Surefooted Retort
- Rogue utility 6: Chameleon
- Rogue encounter 7: Snap Shot
- Rogue daily 9: Knockout or Flashy Riposte
- Rogue utility 10: Shadow Stride Half-Elf: Twin Strike
- Paragon Daggermaster: Critical Opportunity
- Paragon Daggermaster: Meditation of the Blade
- Paragon Daggermaster: Deep Dagger Wound
- Rogue encounter 13: Stunning Strike
- Rogue daily 15: Bold Feint
- Rogue utility 16: Hide in Plain Sight
- Rogue encounter 17: No Escape
- Rogue daily 19: Feinting Flurry
- Rogue utility 22: Invisible Troupe
- Rogue encounter 23: Collapsing Riposte
- Rogue daily 25: Ghost on the Wind
- Rogue encounter 27: Skirmishing Strike
- Rogue daily 29: Deathweaving Strike
ITEMS StarLeather +6, 2x Bloodiron Dagger +6, Neck item +6 Alternatives ----------------FEATS:
- Two Weapon Defense
- Defensive Advantage Hide Armor Proficiency
- Hide Armor Specialization
- Silent Shadows Guild
- Arcane Famaliar
- Arcane Implement Proficiency
- Epic Fortitude
- Epic Reflexes
- Epic Will
- Timely Revival
- Grim Promise
- Underhanded Tactics
- Mark of Detection
- Mark of Shadow
POWERS:
- Bard Encounter 23: Chant of Bad Fortune
- Bard daily 25: Virtuoso of Misfortune
- Rogue daily 29: Cagey Killer
EPIC DESTINIES: Demigod WEAPONS: Cunning Weapon +6 2x Radiant Weapon Dagger +6 ---------------- (This is a build I came up with and am playing now- its made of awesome. Combat or noncombat, you can do it all.) continued.
McSmashin
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9 months ago ::
May 22, 2009 - 7:58PM
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Combo:
- Cunning Weapon, Arcane Implement Proficiency, Virtuoso of Misfortune, and Cagey Killer you can stun an enemy for almost all the encounter.
- Invisible Troupe - minor action -Bam! everyone is invisible! + Hide in Plain Sight: You can easily attack from a square and stay invisible, no matter you do. Now if you add Martial Mastery and Epic Resurgance you can do it twice an encounter (in case you need to chance positions)...this is huge.
- Also with this build, you can build towards Very High Damage / high ac or high damage / Very High AC
EX: Two Wpn DEf + Def Adv + Lvl 30 + Hide Armor (elderhide +6) + Hide Armor Specialization + Hidden for the encounter = 1+2+43+1+5= 52 AC not to mention that your crit rate is 27.75% per turn. With Trumphet Attack you knock another 2 off the enemy who you hit attack rolls, save ends, for the encounter. (and +2 to your attack rolls too). So you could say for 25% to maybe 50% (longer with a Cunning Weapon) of the encounter you could have eccentially an AC 54!  1. Cha is your primary stat, Dex your second, Range or melee twin strike will use Charisma , b/c of Bard Feat: Combat Virtuoso (Arcane Power) 2. Hang in melee... Twin Strike + Daggermaster , nuf said. 3. You got plenty to do: - range attacks
- melee attacks
- magic powers
- heal
- sneak attack
- stealth
- intimidate
- steal, disable traps, and unlocks doors
- diplomacy
- bluff
- travel across planes
- beat death
- have a familiar
4. dump damage dice all over the place..... sneak attack + twin strike 5. Don't want to die?  Dark Wanderers can't be killed. 6 Flavor. -Dark Wanderer has the best flavor it the game. This is a total hero, I put this build up against a fighter as funnist build to play. By Endgame you are truely an unstoppable force. It's like being Jason in the Friday the 13th movies, you can kill him and you run away - but inevitably he gonna just gonna get back up, walk after you, scare the crap out of you when he pops out in front of you and cuts you down... I hope this is enough...  McSmashin
McSmashin
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9 months ago ::
May 22, 2009 - 9:01PM
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McSmashin, this is one of the most usable characters ever. He can go anywhere and do anything. He's a thief, a face, a ninja, and he even has a bit of magic.
I can't wait to take him out for a spin.
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9 months ago ::
May 22, 2009 - 11:53PM
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Excellent build. Technically, optimised is probably something other than dark wanderer, and a few of the basic defensive feats.
Defensive feat list:
Robust Defenses, TWD, Epic Will/Reflex/Fort
Candidates for dropping:
Melee training, Rogue Weapon Mastery, Distant/Lasting Advantage
...but I see no need to optimise it further than what you've got, and certainly not at the expense of your concept. It's lovely.
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9 months ago ::
May 23, 2009 - 5:11AM
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Ranged rogues should pick up mounted combat and be riding that awesome dire wolf. Even if just for heroic / early paragon and then retrain the feat later to Distant/Lasting ... it is just that much better.
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9 months ago ::
May 23, 2009 - 5:34AM
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Yeah, I had this idea too. I'm considering a range of different Striker/Bard builds to play or possibly a Starpact/Sorcerer(for Sorcerous Vision). But I'm generally looking at Sage of the Ages(known reroll at 24th, even if it is difficult to get the 26th level special up high enough at the moment, is well worth it on its own - not to mention, being a Rogue who can eventually make Int skill checks is just hilarious. Here's the original build
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9 months ago ::
May 23, 2009 - 6:12AM
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Not that it really matters, but don't you get another +1 to an ability score?
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9 months ago ::
May 23, 2009 - 7:59AM
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Not that it really matters, but don't you get another +1 to an ability score?
YES!
 to you!
I missed that - I edited it and added it to CON, so that opens up Hide Armor Specialization . very nice
thanks,
McSmashin
McSmashin
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9 months ago ::
May 23, 2009 - 8:15AM
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Excellent build. Technically, optimised is probably something other than dark wanderer, and a few of the basic defensive feats.
Defensive feat list:
Robust Defenses, TWD, Epic Will/Reflex/Fort
Candidates for dropping:
Melee training, Rogue Weapon Mastery, Distant/Lasting Advantage
...but I see no need to optimise it further than what you've got, and certainly not at the expense of your concept. It's lovely.
Thank you for the insight. The only thing about Melee Training is that Two Weapon Opening plays off of it. So, 15% of the attacks made will allow this power to come into play.
To me, the Dark Wanderer's real appeal is the idea that: yeah sure, Demigod is more powerful/damaging per encounter, but that's the difference between winning a battle and winning a war. Demigod maybe better in the short run, but over the long haul nothing can stop the inevitable victory of the Dark Wanderer, save the Undying Warrior.
The character at 30 lvl could rule/destroy the world, if it chose, or all worlds for that matter, since it can travel anywhere in any plane in 24 hrs.
thanks again,
McSmashin
McSmashin
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9 months ago ::
May 23, 2009 - 12:42PM
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YES!
to you!
I missed that - I edited it and added it to CON, so that opens up Hide Armor Specialization . very nice
thanks,
McSmashin
Glad to help, and thanks for the cookie.
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