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4 years ago  ::  Jun 20, 2009 - 10:36AM #511
Alficles
Date Joined: Aug 19, 2007
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IMO, HBO isn't as good as it sounds. Monsters have a large number of ways to avoid AttackOps and the warlord doesn't have many ways to make them take them. Furthermore, the best at-will to hit with is Commander's Strike, and that requires an even more situational setup.

Personally, I like Dex for Quick Draw and Not Going Last, but a warlord can certainly live without it.
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4 years ago  ::  Jun 20, 2009 - 10:49AM #512
Elder_basilisk
Date Joined: Dec 16, 2005
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paladin777 wrote:

Ok. now I guess the question now is should I bump cha every time or should I go for heavy blade feats, and if so, should I go for expertise or just HBO.


My answer: bump charisma every time and don't go out of your way to qualify for heavy blade feats. HBO isn't too interesting for you anyway--it's not like it would give you the option to brash strike/twin strike/dual strike/sly flourish/holy strike/enfeebling strike on someone else's turn. Rousing assault might be worth using but I don't think it's worth getting a 15 Dex and spending a feat for the possibility of using it on an OA.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2009 - 9:03PM #513
Priwen
Date Joined: May 8, 2009
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I have a lvl.1 Dragonborn Inspiring Warlord who's main abilities are 18 strength and 18 Charisma.

I'm convinced that I want to use Wolf-Pack Tactics, no doubt about it.

I'm thinking though, Brash Assault and get the Harlequin Style Feat?

Or just keep Furious Smash?

I like the use of Smash against Fort.

But Brash Assault just seems retardedly good when you get the Harlequin Style Feat.

I'm using Smash now, and it seems like every time I use it, the creature dies before the person I chose can hit. Should I just target the next ally in innitiative with Smash all the time, or should I get the Feat and use Brash for the crazy AC boost and probably extra Opp. Attack?
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2009 - 11:09PM #514
tiornys
Date Joined: Feb 8, 2002
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Priwen wrote:

I have a lvl.1 Dragonborn Inspiring Warlord who's main abilities are 18 strength and 18 Charisma.

I'm convinced that I want to use Wolf-Pack Tactics, no doubt about it.

I'm thinking though, Brash Assault and get the Harlequin Style Feat?

Or just keep Furious Smash?


A starting 18 Cha means that Furious Smash is competitive for at-will DPR purposes and actively good for setting up strong encounter/daily powers. It's a string offensive at-will power, and will stay that way as long as you continue to pump Cha.

I like the use of Smash against Fort.

But Brash Assault just seems retardedly good when you get the Harlequin Style Feat.


Brash Assault + Harlequin Style is great if you get attacked frequently (or if the DM always takes the free optional attack). So, its value comes down to: how often does the DM target you, and how good are your defenders at keeping the heat off of you? If you frequently take a secondary defender role and are the target of lots of attacks, go with BA+HS. If your defenders/other front liners have you covered (and the DM is tactically smart about whether to take the attack), go with Furious Smash.

I'm using Smash now, and it seems like every time I use it, the creature dies before the person I chose can hit. Should I just target the next ally in innitiative with Smash all the time,...?


Sounds like you should make more use of the Delay option. If the enemy you plan to attack might die before the ally you'd grant the bonus to is going to go, Delay until you know whether or not that enemy is going to die.

t~

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 07, 2009 - 3:14PM #515
hellgrammite00
Date Joined: Dec 20, 2004
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If you need to be any type of secondary defender, I think Brash Assault and Harlequin style is the way to go.

Though I would recommend at least a 16 charisma when starting out.

Best case - as an at-will, the target is being attacked with 2 basic attacks, though the target can try and attack you with a basic attack (you should have a net +1 or +2 to defenses against attacks from the creature until next turn.)

Worst case - the power becomes a basic attack that grants you a +1 or +2 to defenses (still granting combat advantage, but most creatures cant specifically benefit from it)
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 10, 2009 - 11:29PM #516
wero
Date Joined: Dec 8, 2006
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I have a halfling warlord.

I think goblin totem weapons are very very very good and make small characters good martial characters.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 12, 2009 - 8:02AM #517
wero
Date Joined: Dec 8, 2006
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I want to maximize my Bold Command

Heroic Tier
Prerequisite: Halfling, warlord, Bravura Presence class feature
Benefit: If an enemy that has combat advantage against you misses with a melee attack, your allies gain a +1 bonus to attack rolls against that enemy until the start of your next turn
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I think is a very good feat.

Any advice?

obviously Brash assault is mandatory

But if I use other powers?

A possibility is to fight being prone (and is very bravura) :D :D :D

And I need good defenses.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2010 - 5:06PM #518
daniel79
Date Joined: Apr 14, 2010
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I like the idea that "dead enemies don't strike back". I'm playing a different Eladrin Warlord - he's STR / INT based, but uses Bravura Presence. There's an obvious reason - the Action Point benefit. Of course, I could take Resourseful Presence, Infernal Strategist, and in lvl 16 I would have 2 Presences - but this character was played since lvl 1, so I could not wait soooo many lvls to have such precious benefit.

My group:
Eladrin Warlord (me)
Tiefling Swordmage
Human Paladin (riding a Nightmare, it saved the group recently!)
Human Warlock Dark Pact (invested heavily on Initiative)
Genasi Wizard (optimized Fire Powers)

Guileful Switch is a blessing here - many enemy groups lost their leaders or strongest members before they even moved thanks to Guileful Switch. I believe the Warlord is the fundamental piece in a damage-heavy group.
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