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Aug 9, 2009 -- 5:09AM, Cecil90670 wrote:

Sorden wrote:

If I interpret the sustain rules correctly, Oni's Gift can be sustained for the entire encounter without using OAs (I didn't know you could sustain a power with an OA?). This would make the power solid blue in my eyes, or even sky blue for a "cowardly" hybrid build.  Excerpt from the "Durations" text box, player's handbook, page 278:  "[...] Starting on the turn after you create an effect, you sustain the effect by taking the indicated action [...] At the end of your turn, if you haven't spent the required action to sustain the effect, the effect ends."  This would mean that while you become visible again at the beginning of your turn, the power is still active until the end of your turn, allowing you to spend a minor action to sustain it and become invisible again.

This is true, to an extent. Since Oni's Gift ends at the beginning of your turn, then you have nothing to sustain at the end of your turn, unless you have met the second part that allows it to be sustained, that being making an attack that would in turn make you visible again. Thus, making it less useful to use for Snaremages and Shieldmages, since they would have to use it, then make an attack on their turn in order to ensure they get the sustainable part of it, but at the cost of them being visible all the time, unless they got an attack on anothers turn, in which case, they would be able to use it very well, but at the cost of having to ensure they repeatedly got an OA.  I was thinking this over before getting on the forums earlier, and came to the conclusion that it should be sky blue, but only for Assaultmages. This is because they can get the full potential out of the power, with the way their Aegis functions. Especially if they mark more than just a couple enemies. Being able to mark multiple enemies gives them more freedom with this powers use, since this can make many enemies really think twice about when they attack one of your allies, since they won't know if you're coming after them or not. A single enemy could just decide not to attack, in which case you're doing an absolute fantastic job as a defender, while with multiple aegis marks, you can pick and choose which enemy gets your attack, thus possibly giving multiple enemies that same choice as the previous case.

This has been fixed in the November errata, BTW:

Oni’s Gift
Page 61: On the Effect line, replace “start” with “end.” There is no way to sustain the power unless it lasts until the end of your next turn.

Dec 10, 2009 -- 5:22PM, Keenath wrote:

I don't think I ever assumed that you stand still -- you use that mobility to always place yourself where you're the most annoying to your enemies.  Surely you don't expect to use your great mobility to avoid being close to monsters?  Being hard to shift past is one way you accomplish that stated task of defending the squishier members of your party.

Your high mobility means you can put yourself virtually anywhere on the field, and this feat, particularly with swordburst, transforms you into a highly movable lump of difficult terrain.

Why would you NOT want this?

White Lotus Hindrance's biggest drawback is that it ONLY affects squares adjacent to you. This will not cause an enemy to remain stuck to you unless that enemy would have already. As a defender, there is no lose/lose situation for the enemy with that feat, except in one situation, the Swordmage wishes to remain adjacent, AND in front of his allies (as is the case for Sigil Carvers mostly). Any other situation, you could get the exact same affect without the feat as with it.

The mobility is not the concern for why I gave it a mediocre rating. The fact that it doesn't truly give you, as a defender, anything extra that you couldn't already do without the feat is why I rated it poorly.

Note: All I need to do now is fix the fricken formatting for it and update the equipment.