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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 8:48AM #1
PeterAbelard
Date Joined: Jul 12, 2008
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I know, that's an impossible question to answer without knowing more about the party, play-stlye, etc.

Still... I'm tired of playing defenders and leaders for a bit. I want to roll dice and do tons of damage. Period. Our group has had three strikers so far at various times:

1. Brutal Scoundrel Rogue that thought she was a front-liner and got knocked out pretty much every combat. Retired.

2. Hell-lock that stays way at the back and fires Hellish Rebuke all the time. Will be retired.

3. Rageblood Barbarian who just is a damage machine but is practically attached at the hip to my cleric to remain standing. May still be with the party.

Ideally, I'd want to play one of the other strikers, but I can admit that I also don't want to play a 'weak' one. I can RP the character differently if necessary.

We're going to be level 1, so we've got to start with the basics. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thx!
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 8:50AM #2
Xtian
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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Sorcerers have the gold for AoE Damage, Rogues start with a lot of damage early but don't scale all too well, Rangers eventually pick up as the #1 single-target DPR striker. Randomly, fighters also compete for top DPR, especially at early levels with either a Doublesword and Dual Strike or an Executioner's Axe and Brash Strike.
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 9:08AM #3
SadisticFishing
Date Joined: Jan 15, 2007
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TWF rangers do a lot of damage, even at early levels.

I'm currently loving my Dragon sorcerer, crazy AoE damage is fuuuun. We have a barbarian for solo fights, too.
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 9:36AM #4
Rovin
Date Joined: Feb 8, 2009
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SadisticFishing wrote:

TWF rangers do a lot of damage, even at early levels.


They also have some nice mobility, and rolling two attacks a turn almost all the time tends to reduce the frustration of whiffing.

Getting Toughness for free doesn't stink either.

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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 9:43AM #5
borg285
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008
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Eladrin tempest with urgosh with Eladrin Soldier
-Rain of Blows, Dual Strike(d12/d8), +2 damage from Soldier is solid
-Villain's menace loves Dual strike

Dwarf Ranger with War axes with Dwarven Weapon Training
-Stats aren't in the best spot but 2xd12 + 2x2(dwarven training)... + HQ = :D
-Minor Second wind + toughness + Cloak of the walking wounded = Durable

Bugbear Brutal Scoundrel with Mage's large double sword and backstabber @ 1st
-With CA d10 + 1(magic) + 5(str) + 5(dex) + 2d8 = ouchie

Those are the main contenders for single Target DPR.

As you get above level 3 the fighter and ranger are neck and neck because of dual/twin strike, which the Giant Riding Lizard loves (Level 6 item/monster). The Rogue can keep up if he stretches for it, but always requires CA to be effective whereas the other 2 don't.

The barbarian I haven't had experience with.
DPR King Candidates 3.0
How much damage should I shoot for? Show

You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR

DPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show

DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
       = DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 10:06AM #6
joemama1512
Date Joined: Apr 10, 2008
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I'd say to consider a sorcerer.

It gives you a different flavor than the martial guys you have likely played a lot lately.

The sorc is a mix between wizard and warlock. They focus on AoE damage, but are still solid at single target damage as well.

They work nicely at close range with bursts, but ALSO are solid at long range too. I have been very pleased with their versatility.


Id encourage you to read my guide (the first few paragraphs that describe their playstyle) to help you make a decision.


http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?p=18516579
My Sorc Guide Link:
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19649162/Joes_Sorcerer_Guide_AP_update_51509

My Genesi Wizard Blaster Link:
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/25082729/Miniguide_to_Genesi_LightningThunder_Blaster_Wizard_%2806-2010%29
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 11:14AM #7
borg285
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008
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I'd like to give a to the Chaos' mini Rain of Steel for auto damage, even if it means you're up and close with the baddies.
DPR King Candidates 3.0
How much damage should I shoot for? Show

You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR

DPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show

DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
       = DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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4 years ago  ::  May 12, 2009 - 8:44AM #8
The1Darklord
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I'd say Avenger, Full blade or Executioners Axe, get yourself RROT, for a crit every encounter, get a vicious weapon. By level 2 welcome to Crits every encounter for around 40-50 damage, use your encounter and daily in one round with an action point and clear 100 damage. :D

Oh and rolling twice to attack means you rarely miss, missing is just no fun at all...

Daniel.
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4 years ago  ::  May 12, 2009 - 9:07AM #9
SadisticFishing
Date Joined: Jan 15, 2007
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RRoT is also stupid and should not be touched. Ever.
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4 years ago  ::  May 12, 2009 - 9:13AM #10
The1Darklord
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PeterAbelard wrote:

I want to roll dice and do tons of damage. Period.


My suggestion seems good to me.

You don't have to agree of course SadisticFishing but telling others what they can and can't do seems uncalled for.

Daniel.

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