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3 years ago ::
Aug 02, 2010 - 8:03AM
#31
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Date Joined:
Jun 16, 2007
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Thread Necromancy strikes again!
The recent change to Windrise Ports breaks this build, since you can now no longer MC into a martial class *and* the Net training. 
Has anyone looked at refreshing this build since the change to Windrise Ports?
I believe net training no longer has the martial class prereq.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2010 - 10:19AM
#32
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Thread Necromancy strikes again!
The recent change to Windrise Ports breaks this build, since you can now no longer MC into a martial class *and* the Net training.
Has anyone looked at refreshing this build since the change to Windrise Ports?
I believe net training no longer has the martial class prereq.
So, this build can now be done with a Wizard|Monk hybrid. Sweet. I'll slap one together and see if I can make it look good. 
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3 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2010 - 11:24AM
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Jun 18, 2009
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I was trying to figure out a way to do net-as-implement with the Half-Elf feat Adept Dilettante, but I'm not finding a feat other than multiclass ones (can't take) and arcane implement proficiency (no flail).
I'm currently exploring a net-based Battlemind using similar tactics. Being a half-elf not only opens Adept Dilettante (which allows you to take some tasty feats from your Dilettante class), but also opens Foamgather Heritage/Warrior for an untyped +1 to hit with net and a grabbing at-will attack. I'll post that build after it has had time to simmer.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 28, 2012 - 11:31AM
#34
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Date Joined:
Apr 26, 2008
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question about this build. so does the net's slowing effect apply even if you aren't attacking with it as a weapon? for example, if a cleric used lance of faith through the disrupting net from 5 squares away, would he get the slowing effect from the weapon as well?
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1 year ago ::
Jan 28, 2012 - 12:48PM
#35
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Nov 23, 2003
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As intended by the people who wrote the feats? No.
But the feats don't currently say "if you hit with a weapon attack while wielding the net". They say "When you hit a target with your net".
Was a net your implement? Yes? It's an implement attack? yes? Then you hit a target with your net, just like you'd have hit a target with your wand were you wielding a wand.
"Nice assumptions. Completely wrong assumptions, but by jove if being incorrect stopped people from making idiotic statements, we wouldn't have modern internet subculture." Kerrus
Practical gameplay runs by neither RAW or RAI, but rather "A Compromise Between The Gist Of The Rule As I Recall Getting The Impression Of It That One Time I Read It And What Jerry Says He Remembers, Whatever, We'll Look It Up Later If Any Of Us Still Give A Damn." Erachima
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1 year ago ::
Jan 28, 2012 - 5:34PM
#36
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Apr 26, 2008
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Thanks for the quick reply.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 15, 2012 - 11:15PM
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Apr 14, 2008
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Would anyone happen to know how to get the net as an implement without multiclassing or hybridizing?
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1 year ago ::
Mar 16, 2012 - 1:24AM
#38
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Would anyone happen to know how to get the net as an implement without multiclassing or hybridizing?
Not really possible.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 16, 2012 - 10:50AM
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Apr 14, 2008
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i was afraid of that. I am currently using a Ki focus but was wanting to do it another way. is there a way to get holy symbols without mc'ing or being a hybrid? which is almost the same question just more focused.
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1 year ago ::
May 11, 2012 - 2:29PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2006
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Sorry for the thread necro, but I found this off the wiki and enjoyed the build. Isn't there a theme that gives you access to ki foci as implements? Flame initiate or something like that. Grab that as your theme and you're ready to go. Alternatively, if you're planning on being an illusionist (or at least a Cha-pumping wizard), you can hybrid Paladin. You can get all armor/shield proficiencies with your Hybrid Talent and you get Hybrid Challenge, which usually will let you mark a dude and blast him for Cha damage each turn if you can include him in your attacks. In addition, some Paladin powers use implements and are not entirely awful, so it's not like you're wasting some power choices. And Bless Weapon is a pretty neat Utility 2, especially if you do have a lot of aoe spells.
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