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4 years ago  ::  May 31, 2009 - 3:53PM #91
johnthedm7000
  • Stampeding Hybrid
Date Joined: Dec 6, 2007
Posts: 729
I just want to say thank you to you guys for detecting this sort of cheese with hybrids! Please get this info to the developers as soon as possible so they can:

Make it so that Armor of Faith and Swordmage warding don't stack to prevent crazy AC shenanigans.

Ensure that Hybrid warlocks don't get 2 at-wills from Twofold pact.

Change the Paladin's mark to normal damage as an immediate reaction.

Are there any other things that you guys have noticed with the revised rules that could be abusive?
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4 years ago  ::  May 31, 2009 - 4:16PM #92
Lugritor
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2006
Posts: 184
They will probably just edit Two-Fold Pact to have Pact Boon as a prerequisite, that would require the hybrid warlock to spend his warlock at will on the at will for his pact then chose to take his hybrid feat fro pact boon. This simple fix brings it back to what a normal warlock would get
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4 years ago  ::  May 31, 2009 - 10:24PM #93
upho
Date Joined: Jan 29, 2008
Posts: 1,211

Stardock wrote:

The problem right now is that Twofold Pact is much better for the hybrid warlock because it gives him 2 pact boons and 2 at-wills for the cost of a feat. So the hybrid warlock ends up with 4 at-will powers at 11th level and gets to choose 2 of them whereas the regular warlock ends up with 3 at-will powers and gets to choose none of them.


Ah, now that is stupid good, I completely agree with you. I was talking about the hypothetical situation (as I thought you were in your hybrid analysis post) of having a Twofold Pact that doesn't give the hybrid anything more than a regular Warlock - ie you get one pact, one boon and one at-will. Nothing else, regardless of your history as hybrid, regular or whatever. That isn't stupid good, IMO. It sure is good, but it doesn't break anything like the current rules do.

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