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+1 to attack with a type of weapon is amazignly overpowered. I'd leave it with free proficiency.

The damage bonus from the orc ability should scale with level, instead of being static.

The troll power is also way too powerful. The regeneration shouldn't function above bloodied.

Ok...I definitely agree these two need work. No bonuses to hit or damage through weap. prof. No other race yet in 4e has such a thing, so no go there.

I suggest for the orcs, a racial proficiency with either the battleaxe or greataxe.

For the trolls, a racial proficiency with handaxes, and either throwing hammers or shortbows.

Now, as for their racial powers, this needs some big work.

For orcs...

Bloodfury Azerothian Orc Racial Power
When the going gets rough, I get tough.
Encounter
Minor Action Personal
Special: You must be bloodied to use this power.
Effect: Until the end of the encounter or until rendered
unconscious, you gain a +2 bonus to damage rolls and speed.
(Maybe instead +4 bonus to damage, instead of the extra speed?)

For trolls...

Berserk Azerothian Troll Racial Power
Who I be keelin' mon?
Encounter ✦ Healing
Minor Action Personal
Special: You must be bloodied to use this power.
Effect: Until the end of the encounter or until rendered
unconscious, you gain a +2 bonus to damage rolls. In addition,
for as long as you are bloodied, you gain regeneration
2 (regeneration 4 at 11th level, regeneration 6 at 21st
level).

They're somewhat similar, but the only sustained racial powers I can find require you to be bloodied to initiate them. As for what the troll power did, it was...as listed...a more powerful version of the Longtooth Shifter power. So, I just put the Longtooth Shifting power there. For the orc power, there's no real precedent, so I just adapted it again from the Longtooth power.

I can't imagine anyone on these boards actually agreeing with me about the changes, but those are my suggestions.

Dark Stryke wrote:

Generally, encounter powers shouldn't have a duration "until the end of the encounter". That just means that they will always be used the second the character gets bloodied, and the benefits will last for the whole encounter.


In terms of the orc, the healing debuff may be fine for WoW, but it could really screw over a D&D character, especially in a long combat, which isn't a lot of fun. Remove the +1 bonus to attack rolls. That's too good.

Um...those are ripped (and tweaked) from the two Shifter race blocks in the back of the MM... So it's already established precedent that playable races can have racial powers with durations.

Sorry I'm new to 4.0 like the rest of us.

I basically went to wikipedia, copied the stats of each race, and then i put them in DnD format.

Thanks for the feedback I'll make said changes.

Well, the Orcs get a command bonus with pets, which I translated to handle animal checks.

Giant I think I got from the monster manual. Endurance maybe, but again I got the bonus to nature from their command ability which gives their pets a bonus +1% damage in WoW.