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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 11:28AM #1
Gamer_Zer0
Date Joined: Apr 17, 2007
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This thread is for the discussion of Races in 4E.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 11:34AM #2
zombiegleemax
Date Joined: Aug 10, 2009
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So you deleted my thread in the races forum so you could make one here? Why didn't you just move it?
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 11:44AM #3
Darkwolf71
Date Joined: Jan 2, 2005
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Hmmm, so.

1) Human
2) Halfling
3) Dwarf
4) Elf
5) Tiefling


Any others that we 'know' are in? Have to go to a meeting ATM, I'll dig up what I've read a bit later.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 11:54AM #4
zombiegleemax
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Half-Elf is mentioned in one of the articles aswell.

The rumor is that either gnome or Half-Orc will be getting the boot. Possibly both. Gnome in favor of tiefling and Half-Orc in favor of the Orc.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 12:01PM #5
Zeful
Date Joined: Jan 19, 2005
Posts: 246
Half-elves. But then the deisgn team might scrap all the known races at the last minute and make up there own. It's still along way off before any determinations can be made.


Here's my proof from The Design and Development Article

Design and Development Article]In the final version of 4th Edition, most of your racial traits come into play right out of the gate at 1st level— wrote:

In the final version of 4th Edition, most of your racial traits come into play right out of the gate at 1st level—dwarven resilience, elven evasion, a half-elf’s inspiring presence, and so on. As you go up levels, you can take racial feats to make those abilities even more exciting and gain new capabilities tied to your race. You can also take race-specific powers built into your class, which accomplish a lot of what racial substitution levels used to do: a dwarf fighter with the friend of earth power can do something that other 10th-level fighters just can’t do.


Looks like I was beaten to the punch

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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 12:09PM #6
Soluphobe
Date Joined: Feb 17, 2007
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[rumor]
Changlings are in.
[/rumor]

[rant]
Okay. Why add Tieflings and NOT Aasimars? I realize that anything with Favored Class: Paladin in 3.x will probably need a rehaul, but why not just create a 'Planetouched' race and then go through some variant progression for it (if you have the path of the Yugoloth, you get X. If you are of the Eldarin, you get Y) as per the new racial stuff.

Second, what's this about no gnomes? (Although, honestly, I always asociated gnomes more with dwarves than halflings.) Is there any official source for this?
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I have to say, I'm worried about the new racial progression.

What? No LA? I'm a Solar now! Who cares if I can't do anything at level 1, level 30 will be a cakewalk!

Also,

In the final version of 4th Edition, most of your racial traits come into play right out of the gate at 1st level—dwarven resilience, elven evasion, a half-elf’s inspiring presence, and so on. As you go up levels, you can take racial feats to make those abilities even more exciting and gain new capabilities tied to your race.


Oh yay! Racial feats for all!

But also, Elves get evasion at level 1. What's up with that? If evasion stays the same as it did in 3.x, this is seriously powerful!

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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 12:10PM #7
Gamer_Zer0
Date Joined: Apr 17, 2007
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Lawlicron wrote:

So you deleted my thread in the races forum so you could make one here? Why didn't you just move it?


I didn't delete it, I imagine it was the WizOs. This forum is for official threads. Best case would have been to create this thread and then merge yours into it, but I was a little slow in realizing we needed one dedicated to races.

So thanks for raising the topic, and sorry I wasn't able to manage things more smoothly.

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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 12:20PM #8
thepsionicbard
Date Joined: May 30, 2006
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i would like to see that IF the half-orc comes back they finaly get a sub race ex:
*Sharakim
*north
*grey
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 12:24PM #9
Visigo7h
Date Joined: Jun 29, 2006
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Ok, I was at the unvailing and at the semonars on both friday and saturday. With that and some well asked questions by me and my friend (Fallenangel359) we know that Gnomes are not in the Players Handbook 1 (as it stands now). This has been comfermed by R&D members.

They also told us that 1 year after the Core 3 are released there will be a Players Handbook 2, DMG 2, and Monster Manual 2 and a new one every year after that. In this they told us each will have a new set of races and classes. The More dificault Classes and Races to balance will be released in the later PHBs. My speculation would be Gnome would be in PHB2 4e.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2007 - 12:27PM #10
fozzybear
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2004
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No gnomes? I bet they are still in there.
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