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6 years ago  ::  Sep 21, 2007 - 9:01AM #1101
Naderion
Date Joined: Oct 26, 2006
Posts: 591

Quarkus wrote:

I, personally, do not understand the concept of racial progression.

For example, when I learn something new, and apply this new knowledge in some situation (basically what experience and gaining class levels in dnd is), I don't get any humaner


For example, a dwarven fighter may have a lot of experience spoting enemies with darkvision and he has done it that often, that he now can discern people even at distances, where most other dwarves only see a dark blur. His eyes don't become sharper, but his combat experience gave him the training to know what this blur means, so effectively his darkvision range exceeds by 10ft. or something like that. Humans and Elves don't have darkvision, so no matter how much combat experiance they get, they won't become able to see further in complete darkness.
But for example, an elf may learn to get 90% efficency from his elven ears compared to only 70% of other elves, who didn't spend countless nights keeping watch in dark dungeons filled with monsters.

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6 years ago  ::  Sep 23, 2007 - 1:23PM #1102
abitslow
Date Joined: Jul 18, 2006
Posts: 8
iam am tired of these ecl bullcrap..even introducing more powerfull races my players still chose the normal races from the players handbook. i feel like everyone is ruining my fav game. i still have friends who play first ed only i think i will join them.
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6 years ago  ::  Sep 23, 2007 - 3:03PM #1103
risk_bandit
Date Joined: Dec 10, 2006
Posts: 14
sorry if this has been brought up before, but when the monster manual comes out and if there's gnomes in that (if they are indeed not going to be core) wont we be able to just use the stats from there until they are in the phb? if would just make sense that if they get rid of any race that was core they would at least leave it in the monster manual. i'm just hoping that things wont get completely out of hand and stuff is just completely wiped out of continuity, if gnomes are gone then dwarven pcs should never have heard of them and blah blah blah.
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6 years ago  ::  Sep 23, 2007 - 9:00PM #1104
Norsesmithy
Date Joined: Mar 23, 2006
Posts: 40

Quarkus wrote:

I, personally, do not understand the concept of racial progression.

For example, when I learn something new, and apply this new knowledge in some situation (basically what experience and gaining class levels in dnd is), I don't get any humaner


Yes you do, you just don't realize it because your frame of reference is a human one.

Just as an Elf won't realize that he is getting better at being "Elfy" as he grows in power, because his frame of reference is an elfen one.

Besides, you haven't survived nearly enough life threatening challenges to really grow in power. Certainly, at least, not enough to have grown in power enough to become a paragon of humanity.

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6 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2007 - 9:13AM #1105
Nemo_the_Lost
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Date Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Posts: 760

AkumaDaimyo wrote:

I like tiefling more but assimar are cool too. Never played one. It's not that there wont be any assimar, its just that they wont be in the PHB.


It looks like this is confirmed, too.

It's embarrassing, really. This is pretty much the definition of pandering.

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6 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2007 - 1:29PM #1106
Viktor_Von_Doom
Date Joined: Sep 25, 2007
Posts: 1,969
What do you guys think the chances are of the Raptorans makeing it into the PHB (I have 4 Rap. characters)?
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6 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2007 - 1:35PM #1107
Feeb
Date Joined: Jun 16, 2004
Posts: 56

"Viktor_Von_Doom"]What do you guys think the chances are of the Raptorans makeing it into the PHB (I have 4 Rap. characters)?


Nil? maybe in the 2nd or 3rd PHB, but def. not in the wrote:

What do you guys think the chances are of the Raptorans makeing it into the PHB (I have 4 Rap. characters)?[/quote]
Nil? maybe in the 2nd or 3rd PHB, but def. not in the first.

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6 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2007 - 2:29PM #1108
Viktor_Von_Doom
Date Joined: Sep 25, 2007
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I'm holding out slim hope, Raptorans are one of the races I really like.
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6 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2007 - 9:24PM #1109
ElecWolf
Date Joined: Dec 2, 2002
Posts: 38
So, the two races most likely to be created by violence, half orc and half demon, are going to be in the first release. However, a natural race, from actual legends which is what I thought the lean in the newer editions was towards, won't be? :P
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6 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2007 - 9:55PM #1110
zombiegleemax
Date Joined: Aug 10, 2009
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Viktor_Von_Doom wrote:

What do you guys think the chances are of the Raptorans makeing it into the PHB (I have 4 Rap. characters)?


Nil, they're a race that debuted in the "Races of" series, and those books have been mixed results. Meaning you won't see them in PHB.

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