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Switch to Forum Live View Female Dragonborn - No longer have breasts?
5 years ago  ::  May 05, 2008 - 8:56AM #271
Lurkalot
Date Joined: Mar 16, 2004
Posts: 546

androkguz wrote:

Sure, that's an explanation that makes a lot of sense in a world ruled by evolution and biology. Can you explain in the D&D world?


No. But then it's not really the point. The reasons for objecting to the dragonboobs aren't whether or not we can justify them with biological explanations or not, but to do with whether or not we want dragonborn to have breasts.

Male nipples may not make a great deal of sense in a world of divine creation either, but it's such a normal part of our real world that to take it out of the D&D one would do nothing but provoke laughter or disconnection from the world we want to believe in.

So saying "men's nipples don't make sense" is (a) not related to the reasons why some of us don't want dragonboobies because our reasons are ones of preference, not biology and (b) would in any case be more of an argument for removing men's nipples than for adding in dragonboobs. But obviously we can't remove men's nipples because people are too attached to them. So it's the same argument in principle as saying "I'm bad at one thing, so might as well not try on the other thing." Specious reasoning (no offense).

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5 years ago  ::  May 06, 2008 - 1:53AM #272
sfdragon
Date Joined: May 8, 2004
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this thread is wrong on so many levels its not funny.


1: how many people have seen the underside of a dragon to tell if a female wyrm had boobs ?

2: its as bas as the thing with dwarven women having beards or not.



the real reason they may have boobs is that so that they can be told apart.


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a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
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5 years ago  ::  May 06, 2008 - 3:09AM #273
AriaSilverhands
Date Joined: Feb 14, 2008
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sfdragon wrote:

the real reason they may have boobs is that so that they can be told apart.


Yeah... whatever. Go look at screenshots and artwork for the iskar in EQ2. They hardly require boobs to tell them apart. In fact, SOE did something right... they didn't give the female iksar boobs.

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5 years ago  ::  May 06, 2008 - 7:02AM #274
_Jayne_Cobb_
Date Joined: Mar 6, 2007
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androkguz wrote:

The answer is another question: "Why guys have nipples?"


The right nipple is used to regulate body temperature while the left nipple is used mainly to pick up shortwave radio transmissions.

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5 years ago  ::  May 06, 2008 - 8:13AM #275
EscherEnigma
Date Joined: Jun 10, 2004
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bah, I upgraded my left one to wi-fi.
A wild EscherEnigma appears!

He looks on with disapproval.

ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!
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5 years ago  ::  May 14, 2008 - 6:34PM #276
Rust
Date Joined: Apr 9, 2001
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The art looks the same to me, the only difference is that the armor was recolored. I don't know if it's supposed to be skin or leather. But either way the "boobs" are still there.
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 12:56AM #277
Demon_Lightfoot
Date Joined: Jul 4, 2002
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_Jayne_Cobb_ wrote:

The right nipple is used to regulate body temperature while the left nipple is used mainly to pick up shortwave radio transmissions.


The Win is strong in this one...

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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 2:58PM #278
turalisj
Date Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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Yes, but will he be a strong weapon for the booby side?
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 7:58PM #279
Pyre_Born
Date Joined: Feb 5, 2007
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Personally I don't understand the need to fight over what is not realistic in dnd, we have immortal elves casting fireballs at elementals...but breasts on a dragonborn can be explained.

The Platypus, officially as of May 2008, are found to have both mammal and reptile DNA, which means they can lay eggs as a reptile and suckle as a mammal. So if you need a realistic reason for mammaries on a Dragonborn, their is scientific proof for the posibility!

If you need the source, get a copy of the May 8th issue of Nature, their is a detailed explanation of the Platypus genome, including the mix of reptile and mammal DNA.
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 8:50PM #280
thaX
Date Joined: Mar 27, 2004
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Yep, and the platypus was mentioned before in this and other threads. This is an explanation that I can get behind.

So lets all agree, Boobs are in!!!
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