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Dec 20, 2007 - 10:03AM
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I have to admit the whole "partially surface-dwelling, partially subterranean" bit makes perfect sense, especially now that they lack darkvision. I mean, there are plenty of benefits to having above-ground facilities and dwellings as opposed to just subterranean ones. They describe them in the snippet, and the explanation provided is sufficient for me.
Also, that dwarf rogue gal is really really really hot. Did I mention Bill O'Connor did a positively smashing job?
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 10:13AM
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The dragonborn female looks like lizard headed supermode!?! Not any supermodel I have ever seen. She is meant to be a rogue, so heaven forbid she might look as though she could be graceful.
The dwarf lady looks nice, not my type (even though I like short women) but apparently the idea of humans digging dwarf girlies will not be a problem from some of the comments here! I see no reason why dwarven ladies can't be attractive, she's definitely not a lithe waif, she's quite solidly built and personally I see no issue with how she looks.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 11:17AM
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i agrree with what most everybody has said here.A dwarf woman most defantaly must be short and stocky. maybe a little dirt on her face for working under ground, but facial hair i dont think so. she may be a dwarf but shes still a woman.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 11:52AM
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I see no reason why dwarven ladies can't be attractive, she's definitely not a lithe waif, she's quite solidly built and personally I see no issue with how she looks.[/quote]
Dwarf women certainly can look attractive (to humans), the issue is how the article suggests that dwarven women should look sexy as a rule.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 12:17PM
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If you don't want your female dwarf character to be pretty, then have her be not-pretty. If you want your female dwarf character to be gorgeous, have her be gorgeous.
There is no issue here.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 12:54PM
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The issue is the direction the game is taking. The 3.5 book had a beardless dwarf woman, who looked similar to the dwarf guy - and didn't look like a human. This 4th ed pic looks like a 5ft or slightly less woman.
I said man shoulders not hulk shoulders. Though it is considered unattractive its not uncommon. I've known women who struggled to keep their shoulders and arms small, any amount of exercise giving them shape and definition most men would kill for. Just like some men have girlish figures.
This is a pic of an attractive short human. Yes she is stocky - but much less so than 3.5. She really doesn't look anything like the dwarf typical in fantasy. This matters, these things shouldn't be just thrown away. Might as well have fat elves, blue orcs, 10ft smurfs etc.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 1:07PM
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So fine, nothing wrong with man shoulders on a woman. If she is going to swing an axe and do equal damage, she'll be needing man shoulders.
Are you suggesting that female elves should do less damage? (or female human, eladrin, halfling and tieffling for that matter)
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 2:10PM
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That's more a matter of Strength... and it's up to you how strong your girls are (within the limits of your ability score allotments, of course) and just how they carry it. Personally, my really strong girls (I currently play one that's Str 24 in an MnM2 game; that is pumping-iron Strength, not superpower-Strength; I also had an Str 18 battle sorcerer in a short-lived stint in an evil Eberron campaign) do tend to be very built (think maybe six and a half feet, broad-shouldered, big-boned--ridiculous physical strength has a way of showing), but I can see some people wanting them more compact. I think it's a little silly to have a woman that's as strong as seven men looking waifish--or even average, generally speaking--but that's just me.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 2:12PM
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If you don't want your female dwarf character to be pretty, then have her be not-pretty. If you want your female dwarf character to be gorgeous, have her be gorgeous.[/quote]
That is how it should be done, not go and state "there are no unattractive dwarf women in D&D".
Maybe I am in the minority in this, but something like this is not what I consider a proper portrayal of the dwarven race, or any race for that matter. It is a fantasy game, fine, but to me D&D has always been about imagining an alternate reality with fantasy elements, not a cartoon universe where over-sexed, shiny cardboard models never grow old or hungry or tired.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 20, 2007 - 2:17PM
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Also that link just posted does not look like a dwarf woman should look, IMO. On the other hand, the dwarf rogue gal linked to (in a slightly roundabout way) by the OP looks wonderful. She is short, stocky, broadly built, big-nosed, and absolutely gorgeous.
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