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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 6:25PM
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As disappointing as it is, it seems most signs point to Dragonlance as the next setting. (EDIT 7/23: Not so much now!)
- Dragonlance material appears in printed books, including Cyan Bloodbane in the Draconomicon
- Raistlin shows up in the character generator.
- Numerous Draconians in the next minis set.
- Minotaurs in the next PHB.
- Weis and Hickman to appear at GenCon...where the next setting is to be announced.
- WotC puts out a Dragonlance essay writing contest were the ultimate prize is a trip to where they are announcing the next setting!
- Bill Slavicsec states: "From the origin of the setting ... it's a great year to be a Dragonlance fan!"
Why would the "origin of the setting" mean that the current year is a great year to be a Dragonlance fan?
On the other side, for Dark Sun we have:
- A Dark Sun article appear in the first online issue of Dragon
- April Fool's article contains the word "defiler"
- PHB3 to feature psionics
- A goliath mini has an obsidian sword (i have a hard time believing people take this as a genuine hint, but it gets mentioned a lot anyway)
- Eberron Player's Guide mentions a place where thri-kreen and half-giants live.
- Dark Sun apparently has an editor for its novel line. New DS novels?!
- Eberron Campaign Guide mentions the templar as a player class!
EDIT: I've been going back and forth the last few months but for the most part i've seen a lot of DL stuff all over the place. These last bits of info that an editor was brought in for Dark Sun novels and templars being in PHB3 are pretty strong evidence for DS to come out though. We can only hope it turns out to be DS!
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 6:37PM
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Date Joined:
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I've seen poeple giving evidence of both. I'm just gonna point and laugh if it isn't either of them. 
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 6:42PM
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Date Joined:
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Dragonlance has played out as a setting. It has 3 decent novels... I guess its a decent CS. But pales in comparison to Eberron and FR.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 7:06PM
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All I will say on the matter is ... KENDER!!!!!!!!!!! 
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 7:16PM
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I've seen poeple giving evidence of both. I'm just gonna point and laugh if it isn't either of them.
I thought everyone knew that the 2010 setting would be Birthright. It's so obvious. 
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 7:19PM
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Dragonlance is nice, I played it a couple of times and enjoyed it. I even bought the v3.5 campaign setting book.
Dark Sun didn't impress me too much, but I did only play it once. I do like the darkness of that setting, and I think we need a primitive setting (one where they don't wear metal armor and use metal weapons).
My personal favorite is the Ravenloft setting though. I know it's unlikely to come back as a full campaign setting; being more likely to appear as DDI articles about the various domains of dread in the Shadowfell.
No matter what it is in 2010, it should be worth at least taking a look at.
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so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.
Really? So it goes something like this?
Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well." Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh. Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."
So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion? Here's a scenario. The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land. They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges. Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.
Part 1: I didn't describe any of the hits. What does he see?
Part 2: Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up. What does he see?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 7:31PM
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Date Joined:
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What's the 'hook' of Dragonlance anyway? The one that makes it feel different than the other Fantasy settings??
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 7:38PM
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What's the 'hook' of Dragonlance anyway? The one that makes it feel different than the other Fantasy settings??
I would imagine that depends on the time you're playing in. Playing in a world that thinks the gods have abandoned them is certainly intruiging. As I said though, my preference lies with the dark stuff.
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so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.
Really? So it goes something like this?
Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well." Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh. Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."
So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion? Here's a scenario. The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land. They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges. Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.
Part 1: I didn't describe any of the hits. What does he see?
Part 2: Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up. What does he see?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 7:44PM
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Date Joined:
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What's the 'hook' of Dragonlance anyway? The one that makes it feel different than the other Fantasy settings??
Its got elves that live in the woods and dwarves that live in the mountains and magical dragons that breathe fire! Thats not original enough for you?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2009 - 7:48PM
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Date Joined:
Dec 21, 2006
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yeah... don't forget the mages that cast spells...
Seriously, what's dragonlance's hook?
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