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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 12:27AM #31
CelticMutt
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Date Joined: Jul 25, 2007
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thaX wrote:

I went over this. Dragon isn't a permanent placeholder for anything. Any race in the ghost of the mag is a likely candidate for the PHB3 (and Setting Player Guides) as they will not be reprinted in the annual/Bi-annual soft cover release. (if one ever comes out, that is)

DDi is extra stuff, not core.


And everyone else has repeatedly gone over this with you: Dragon IS core. No matter how many times you protest, you can't change facts.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 4:10AM #32
Belorin
Date Joined: Apr 26, 2006
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It's true thaX, sorry.

Bel
Originally Posted by WotC_RichBaker
In related news, I'm afraid I'm going to have to confiscate your 3.5 rulebooks, and force you to convert to the new edition. Where do you live?
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 8:44AM #33
Balin_of_House_Arryn
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Any reason why Drow wouldn't be considered? Not in either of the phb so far, nor have they received a Dragon write-up that I know of ... they've already given us two "elf" races, why not a third?

Seems they'd go well with the "Shadow" power too ...
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 9:03AM #34
CelticMutt
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Balin_of_House_Arryn wrote:

Any reason why Drow wouldn't be considered? Not in either of the phb so far, nor have they received a Dragon write-up that I know of ... they've already given us two "elf" races, why not a third?

Seems they'd go well with the "Shadow" power too ...


Drow are in the Forgotten Realm's Player's Guide, and WotC seems pretty adamant about not reprinting stuff from one book into another, except power keywords.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 9:21AM #35
Balin_of_House_Arryn
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CelticMutt wrote:

Drow are in the Forgotten Realm's Player's Guide, and WotC seems pretty adamant about not reprinting stuff from one book into another, except power keywords.


Ah, I'm not a huge FR fan, so I don't think I've ever even bothered to find out the contents of that particular book.

Sigh, another one I have to go buy now ...

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 11:39AM #36
Darkwolf_Bloodsbane
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Balin_of_House_Arryn wrote:

Ah, I'm not a huge FR fan, so I don't think I've ever even bothered to find out the contents of that particular book.

Sigh, another one I have to go buy now ...


It's worth it. there are some really good things in there.

Ahh, so THIS is where I can add a sig.

Remember: Killing an ancient God inside of a pyramid IS a Special Occasion, and thus, ladies should be dipping into their Special Occasions underwear drawer.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 11:50AM #37
Janx_14
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You could also just get the character builder, its all there.

But the FRPG is really more general stuff that while fluffed towards the realms can be applied anywhere.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 12:17PM #38
sigil_beguiler
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Yeah, if you rip the fluff away many people view the FRPG as PHB 1.5 in terms of the amount of content.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 2:28PM #39
Erudite
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That is something I like about this round of material from WotC; It's all official, regardless of setting, and you can import FR stuff into other stuff and i is okaaaay.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 3:34PM #40
thaX
Date Joined: Mar 27, 2004
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CelticMutt wrote:

And everyone else has repeatedly gone over this with you: Dragon IS core. No matter how many times you protest, you can't change facts.


It has always been advertised as extra content, a help for the DM and extra goodies for the player. DDi - "Bring even more to your game table with D&D Insider. With quick access to exclusive material and digital tools D%DI(tm) will help enhance every aspect of your tabletop game."

There has been official word that the only place for new Races and Classes will be in the PHB's and the Setting's Player Guides. Those, it is assumed, that are in the DDi are preview material. It won't be in the Annual soft cover, that being saved for powers, feats and other things, and it won't be in any power source master books.

Whether or not the Minotaur will be in a PHB or stay online is a question, but the possibility that it will adorn the pages of the PHB3 exists, or it could be in the Dark Sun Player's Guide. The Dragon "article" should be considered a preview for future releases.

Terms you should know...

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Kit Build - A class build that is self sustaining and has mechanical differences than the normal scale. Started in Essentials. Most are call their own terms, though the Base Class should be said in front of their own terms (Like Assassin/Executioner)

Power Points - A mechanic that was wedged into the PHB3 classes (with the exception of the Monk) from the previous editions. This time, they are used to augment At Wills to be Encounters, thus eliminating the need to choose powers past 4th level.

Mage Builds - Kit builds that are schools of magic for the Wizard. A call back to the previous editions powering up of the wizard. (Wizard/Necromancer, for example) Unlike the previous kit builds, Wizards simply lose their Scribe Rituals feature and most likely still can choose powers from any build, unlike the Kit Builds.

Parcel System - A treasure distribution method that keeps adventurers poor while forcing/advising the DM to get wish lists from players. The version 2.0 rolls for treasure instead of making a list, and is incomplete because of the lack of clarity about magic item rarity.


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Mar 31, 2011 -- 10:46AM, wrecan wrote:

They will Essentialize the Essentials classes, otherwise known as Essentials2.

The new sub-sub-classes will be:

    * Magician.  A subsubclass of Mage, the magician has two implements, wand and hat, one familiar (rabbit) and series of basic tricks.
    * Crook.  A subsubclass of Thief, the Crook can only use a shiv, which allows him to use his only power... Shank.
    * Angry Vicar, a subsubclass of warpriest, the angry vicar has two attacks -- Shame and Lecture.
    * Hitter.  A subsubclass of Slayer, the Hitter hits things.
    * Gatherer.  A subsubclass of Hunter, it doesn't actually do anything, but pick up the stuff other players might leave behind.

Future Essentials2 classes include the Security Guard (Sentinel2), the Hexknife (Hexblade2), the Webelos (Scout2), the Gallant (Cavalier2) and the Goofus (Knight2).

These will all be detailed in the box set called Heroes of the Futile Marketing.


(Though what they should really release tomorrow is the Essentialized version of the Witchalok!)


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