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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:18PM
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If WotC is smart, theyl create the Ravenloft setting, and make the Necromancer class exclusive for it, like the Swordmage is for FR, and the Artificer is for Eberron. Personally, I cant wait to see the finished Artificer class, and would purchase the Eberron book even just for this class. Jack: There's no need to make Necromancer separate from Wizard.
A problem is, the flavor of Necromancy really belongs to both the Arcane and the Divine power sources. The new Shadow power source solves the conflict by splitting Necromancy away from both of them. Now Clerics or Wizards who want to dabble with undead can take Shadow multiclasses or paragon paths.
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:20PM
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really? it looks more like a 'yanki to me.
'Zerai are more connected to monks than 'Yanki are, and that's definitely a monk. If it were a 'Yanki she'd probably look more like a knight or wizard type.
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:23PM
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If WotC is smart, theyl create the Ravenloft setting, and make the Necromancer class exclusive for it, like the Swordmage is for FR, and the Artificer is for Eberron.
Personally, I cant wait to see the finished Artificer class, and would purchase the Eberron book even just for this class.
The Swordmage and Artificer aren't exclusive - they're usable in any setting. They're just more connected to FR/Eberron. Plus, WotC's pretty much said there will be no Ravenloft stand-alone setting, just the Dragon/Dungeon articles and in books like Manual of the Planes.
Necromancer will be in the Shadow PHb, almost guaranteed.
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:26PM
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Yeah, I don't believe we'll ever see a Necromancer. It's likely we see maybe more articles or a supplement that'll lend darkness-themed powers to existing classes, but there's no need to make Necromancer separate from Wizard.
I actually think they do. Just like the Illusionist Wizard is a lightweight and feels like an afterthought. I would rather they start from the the beginning and rethink the whole class with class features and feats and not tack on something existing. I also think of the Necromancer as more of a leader and not a controller.
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:30PM
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Do you think that since the monk is the psionic striker, the soul knife will move over to divine? Could be changed to a lithe warrior wielding a shard of the astral sea as his weapon (probably a dex build for agile fighters, and a con build or something for more traditional high armored divine). I think this would be cool, as it could be flavored as a wielder of divine power that has no particular connection to the gods. Plus, I like the idea of wielding fragments of the astral sea and wished they would have used something like this for invoker flavor.
For primal, my guess is there will be a ranged weapon class but not sure what it would be.
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:31PM
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The Illusionist works best as a Psionic Controller, who specializes in mental effects and quasi-real Force effects. These effects could even resonate the mental ideals of the Astral Sea. Celtic: The Swordmage and Artificer aren't exclusive - they're usable in any setting.
I just meant, these classes are published exclusively in those setting guides, to help sell them, and not in the PHs.
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:33PM
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Do you think that since the monk is the psionic striker, the soul knife will move over to divine? Could be changed to a lithe warrior wielding a shard of the astral sea as his weapon (probably a dex build for agile fighters, and a con build or something for more traditional high armored divine). I think this would be cool, as it could be flavored as a wielder of divine power that has no particular connection to the gods. Plus, I like the idea of wielding fragments of the astral sea and wished they would have used something like this for invoker flavor.
For primal, my guess is there will be a ranged weapon class but not sure what it would be.
If the Soul Knife appears (which I hope it does), it'll be a Psionic Striker or Defender. I can't see any reason for it to be Divine.
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:34PM
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I love Psionic! But personally, I dont really want Pseudoscience or New Age in the D&D setting.
Nevertheless, for players who like the technobabble names, I could probably live with an appendix at the back of the PH3 that gave 'scientific names' for Psi powers. For example,
[INDENT]Antimagic field (Catapsi)[/INDENT]
This is funny to me. Somehow modern English names are more suitable to a D&D setting than "technobabble" names that are constructed from greek and latin root words?
/off topic
Well, consider me shocked. I do not know what to expect out of more primal and divine classes. I would love to see a Priest and a Crusader class, to give me a new Cleric and Paladin that do not have split attack stats. But that's just me.
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:48PM
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The Minotaur on the cover irritates me though. First the Warforged, now the Minotaur, and as bwcmd1 the Shadar-kai will probably be next. Seriously, what's the point of new race articles in Dragon if they're just going to show up in a PHB or PG shortly afterwards? The only consolation I take from this is that the Dragon Minotaur is way too melee oriented, when all races are supposed to be designed to function as casters or melee, so hopefully PH3 will fix that.
Whose to say this Minotaur will be the same Minotaur from the MM or the Mags? There's no rule that says WotC can't have several interpretations of the same race running around. Granted it would get confusing if there's more than a handful or races that do this... Of course with a race like the Minotaurs, there are such wildly different views on the race it self, that I think it deserves multiple interpretations (eg. Some like Taurens, others a greek Minotaur, sill others like Minotaurs from Dragonlance).
I am OUTRAGED. Almost.
We don't need more primal or divine classes! GIMME SOME OF THAT ELEMENTAL! Honestly!
With Ki going by the way side, it was expected that WotC would pull back on the new power sources to one a year. By doing this, WotC has an additional 3 years of content (counting the PHB 3) to go before they run out of previously stated power sources. Of course WotC can't very well release a PHB that only has 1 new power source, so it is to be expected that older sources would be re-used.
Out of the 4 sources we have thus far, Arcane is the only one that feels bloated but even then it only has 6 classes. Divine and Primal have the most room to grow... For example perhaps the new Divine class will be a mix of the Favored Soul, the Binder and the Sovereign Speaker. The flavor would be a chosen individual who can channel aspects of multiple gods to defeat his enemies. During one combat he channels Kord and beats his enemies down with a sword, then next he channels Bahamut and defends his allies with mystical breath weapons... As for Primal they could always make a Blighter-like class that absorbs the life energies from around him and uses that to fuel his attacks...
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4 years ago ::
May 19, 2009 - 3:50PM
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Well, consider me shocked. I do not know what to expect out of more primal and divine classes. I would love to see a Priest and a Crusader class, to give me a new Cleric and Paladin that do not have split attack stats. But that's just me.
I'd rather they just rewrite the paladin and cleric class features in an errata section in divine power or somehow patch the classes with tons of love in that book. I have a suspicion you are right about the priest and crusader classes though.
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