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XunValDorl of HouseKilsek wrote:

Actually a 16th level Psionic could achieve divinity. My argument isn't flawed it's factual. My friend actually wrote WotC and showed him what he had done. All they could do is say mechanically that is 100% right, but morally it wasn't. And what I want you to do is i want you to make a Wizard that is capable of killing every deity in the 3rd edition books. There was a tiny flaw in Psionics that my friend found and made the entire system of Psionics broken beyond anything out there. It's really funny how just because you assume you are right that automatically makes me wrong. From the information that I have I know for a fact that you are the one that is flawed with your argument.

Ever hear of Pun Pun? By level 4 (it might have been 6) he had every spell there was, indefinitely high ability scores, and infinite divine rank. Spoiler: he didn't use psionics.

ff6shadow wrote:

Edit:They got Pun-Pun down to level 1 GhostStepper. Using wizard I do beleive

I remember that the level kept getting lower and lower. At some point i stopped keeping track. lol

The fact was, there were multiple ways that non-psionic casters could get divine rank long before 16. This is why there are so many versions of Pun-Pun.

XunValDorl of HouseKilsek wrote:

Actually a 16th level Psionic could achieve divinity. My argument isn't flawed it's factual. My friend actually wrote WotC and showed him what he had done. All they could do is say mechanically that is 100% right, but morally it wasn't. And what I want you to do is i want you to make a Wizard that is capable of killing every deity in the 3rd edition books. There was a tiny flaw in Psionics that my friend found and made the entire system of Psionics broken beyond anything out there. It's really funny how just because you assume you are right that automatically makes me wrong. From the information that I have I know for a fact that you are the one that is flawed with your argument.

Lol, "you are the one with the flawed argument". That's your riposte?

You provide no details, no facts, just a story about "Yuh-huh! I know a guy who did it!"

You have yet to provide actual facts, so your claim about your story being factual is baseless, and flat out untrue.

For example, you said 16th level psionic. Psionic what? Psychic Warrior? Soulknife? Wilder? Was he a Psion? What discipline? What powers/feats/Prestige Class did "your friend" use? You have provided no facts and thus your argument is not factual.

In other words: Prove it.

You claim that there was a "tiny flaw" that made the "entire system" broken beyong measure? What flaw exactly would this be? Are you perhaps referring to the psionics/magic non-transparency OPTIONAL rule that basically means if a character or creature is not itself psionic it has no defenses to psionics? That's not core, buddy.

Furthermore, actual ACHIEVEMENT of divine rank was something SOLELY handed out by the DM. A wizard, psion, whatever, can reach level 45 and NOT be a deity. A Demigod could be level 21. Divine rank is not a factor of level. And no one without a divine rank can kill a deity. You have to have divine rank yourself to permanently kill a deity, or be using something specifically that has the power to kill a god (such as the Crescent Blade in the WotSQ series). Without a divine rank, you could concieveably reduce a deity to 0 hp, but destroy him/her? No.

As usual, you ignore facts to make blanket statements and impossibly wild and outrageous claims unsupported by any evidence, and say "I'm right, and you are the one who is wrong".

This is the kind of immaturity and nonsense that you are criticized for on these forums.

That and your constant complaining about 4e, horrible misuse of syntax, and forum name that implies a drow fanboi.