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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 4:51PM
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With a recent piece of info that was just recently revealed, it is possible that we may have names(and easy to guess power sources) for all classes and races to appear in the PHBII. Here is a quick run down of what they appear to be along with links to where the information about them came from. Races DevaGnome
Goliath
Half-OrcShifterClasses Avenger(Divine(?) Striker(?))Barbarian(Primal Striker)Bard(Arcane Leader)Druid(Primal Controller(?))Invoker(Divine(?) Controller(?))Shaman(Primal(?) Leader)Sorcerer(Arcane Controller)Warden(Primal(?) Defender(?))So what does everyone think? Good list? Bad list? Incorrect? They need to start giving us PHBIII clues?.....Well ok that last one isn't so much a question, as a demmand. *shrugs*
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:02PM
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Interesting about the Avenger and Invoker. Not sure what the Avenger would be as it sounds like it'd likely be a striker and I guess Divine but it's hard to say. It honestly sounds more like a paragon path than a class.
Invoker is likely the 'more spellcastery cleric' they talked about and will likely be a controller but could potentially be a leader or striker.
Deva was pretty much a given considering multiple posts, teasers, and the fact that the only race we didn't have combinations of based on the letter game was De.
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:03PM
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With a recent piece of info that was just recently revealed, it is possible that we may have names(and easy to guess power sources) for all classes and races to appear in the PHBII. Here is a quick run down of what they appear to be along with links to where the information about them came from.
Races
Deva
Gnome
Goliath
Half-Orc
Shifter
Classes
Avenger(Divine(?) Striker(?))
Barbarian(Primal Striker)
Bard(Arcane Leader)
Druid(Primal ?)
Invoker(Divine(?) Controller(?))
Shaman(Primal(?) Leader)
Sorcerer(Arcane Controller)
Warden(Primal(?) Defender(?))
So what does everyone think? Good list? Bad list? Incorrect? They need to start giving us PHBIII clues?.....Well ok that last one isn't so much a question, as a demmand. *shrugs*
Nope, I still don't believe it. I don't want to believe it. I liked "Inquisitor" and "Theurge".
There's better names that could have been picked than "Avenger" and "Invoker". "Invoker" is too much like "Evocation" (Primal powers) for me, and "Avenger" was the name of a Druidic (read: Primal) variant class in 3E, not to mention that there's already an "Angelic Avenger" (Cleric Paragon Path) for "Avenger" to get confused with.
I'm still crossing my fingers on this one.
EDIT: FWIW, it's "Avenger" that really bugs me. I could handle "Invoker" as a Divine Controller.
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:04PM
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I followed your links, but I didn't see any references to Avengers or Invokers in the attached post (but I might have missed them).
Wasn't there supposed to be a 'T' class in there?
R.I.P. Nefertiti 12/12/09. Farewell, beloved kitty.
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:06PM
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I followed your links, but I didn't see any references to Avengers or Invokers in the attached post (but I might have missed them).
Wasn't there supposed to be a 'T' class in there?
page two of the character sheet, look at his companions.
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:08PM
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I mentioned this in another thread but i had a WotC freelance author at my table for weekend at the realms. He mentioned "Invoker" in passing when we were talking about the PHB2 but quickly shut his yap since he's not allowed to really talk about future releases.
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:10PM
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Wasn't there supposed to be a 'T' class in there?
There was. But there wasn't suppose to be an 'A' class. Given how long ago we got the letter clues, I'm assuming the 'T' class was swapped out (or renamed) to the 'A' class.
Considering Avenger is likely a Divine Striker, I believe that the 'T' class was a Templar which was also a Divine Striker. I believe they renamed it because of developments with the third campaign to be released which I believe to be Dark Sun :P
What am I basing all this on? Mostly my imagination 
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:17PM
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Avenger sounds like a striker to me
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:30PM
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I know it's way too late for WotC to make changes to the book, but I'd still have liked to see Sorcerers as Primal Controllers. Controllers are rare enough without putting both of them in the Arcane power source. It's not about grid-filling, it's that for the four power sources of the Core Books, there are only three controllers, two of which are Arcane. It seems a little unbalanced. I think I might house-rule Sorcerers as Primal, unless there is a mechanical reason for them to remain Arcane.
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1 year ago ::
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:33PM
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there will be a primal controller, so its either 2 arcane, or 2 primal :/ we may have a divine controller as well! but we doon't know enough. It seems that each of teh core power sources will have 4 "PHB" classes, and if they stick to a pattern, they'll have a single role that they fill twice (like martial has two strikers).
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