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Ranadiel wrote:

You are wrong, there is no indication that they are reprinting the Swordmage(except for a mistaken claim from ENWorld which I have disproven several times), and in fact they have stated that they will not be reprinting stuff from FRPG in any other source.

Ahh...EN World is precisely where I came by that assumption.

Which means that the "D" Race isn't going to be "Drow" afterall, which probably means "Deva"

Where is everyone getting the name Warden? And for that matter, where has it been confirmed that the Druid is now a nature/weather based caster?

Dragoncat wrote:

Remind me, why can't a Druid use weather magic....and wildshape?

Consider, for a moment. The wizard has a lot of different abilities, ranging from blasting and blazing to flight and mirror image. What if the druid used a large array of natural magic, sometimes calling down lightning, sometimes sending plants into a frenzy, and sometimes turning into a bird to fly away?

To parallel the wizard's flight ability, if wildshaping was a power that required Sustain Minor actions, the druid could use various forms for utility and a few powers, and still send the whirlwind against all who oppose nature.

Moreover, if not only one class can wildshape, that sort of primal ability could spread around. The Warden, assuming there is a Warden, could buff himself by shifting, perhaps even outright wildshaping into more powerful forms as he protects his allies. So while the druid is flying about the battlefield as a falcon and calling down the thunder, the warden is werebearing it up and smashing left and right.

The druid was originally slated to be a "hybrid" class simultaneously combining the roles of Striker and Controller. The Striker elements were hinted at with talk of mobility forms and big mauling forms, while the Controller elements were hinted at with talk of weather magic. The two elements were, even at that time, meant to be balanced by only being usable one at a time (i.e., no spellcasting in animal form). Subsequently, the hybrid classes idea was scratched. (:clap Thus many readers concluded that we would be left with a Primal Controller that focuses on weather magic and a Primal Striker that focuses on shapeshifting.

Now that we know the Barbarian is a Primal Striker, many readers conclude that the/a shapeshifting class will instead be a Primal Defender. This is due to forced or unforced (depends on your opinion) symmetry of roles per power source. The possibility of two Primal Strikers, however, is not absolutely out of the question.

Dragoncat wrote:

But you know who has me excited? The divine controller.

Now, I'm fairly certain that I'm going to open up the book and find that it's a fire and brimstone blaster type with a divine flavor. But I'm hopping, wishing, somewhere deep down, that he won't be. What if they made a controller...........that wasn't a blaster?

Because you know what I think of when I hear Divine Controller? Barriers. Wards. Banishments. The more leaderly kind of controller who projects walls of shear will, rejecting all that seek to intrude, or containing the foe in an enclosed circle. I see a controller who doesn't shape the battlefield by punishing enemies who group together, I see a controller who literally SHAPES the battlefield by saying "I'm going to put a ward here to enclose this circle, and these kobolds over here are going to be impeded by this wall here, and the BBEG is going to be trapped in this sphere of purity here, hang on, let me get some markers..."

I think this sounds uber-awesome. :D I don't see how a few blasts and flame strikes and plagues would hurt the concept.