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5 years ago  ::  Aug 01, 2008 - 7:54AM #11
That_Blasted_Somoflange
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2002
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JohnLynch wrote:

I dunno, the WotC Spring Catalogue seems pretty darn official. I mean its possible the enworld people are completely lying I guess....


I didn't read the whole thing, only the first post which didn't mention the spring catalogue. However, I still stand by saying that it may not guarantee that half-orcs will be in. The cover of the players handbook changed before release, content can change as well.

Also good pick up on She not fitting. So either we've got Se and Dh (both of which would require new races) or De and Sh (which neither technically require a new race, but the De probably is). I'm glad we'll finally be getting a new race (I was hoping for something new instead of just old content updated).

Although where could I find out some more about the 3.5e Goliaths?


I don't know if it will be a completely new race, perhaps they have just renamed the aasimar to something else. Or, the information we've been given about races has changed. The powers that be may just be watching these forums and giggling.:P

I believe goliaths were found in races of stone.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 1:28AM #12
Neutronium_Dragon
Date Joined: Aug 11, 2006
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> Why would WotC focus on a CE race of demon worshipers rather than a race
> that has been part of the circle of player races forever?

I could see it from the standpoint that gnolls fit the primal source, particularly if they expand the race to incorporate some of the wilderness-oriented (and not necessarily evil) material from 3E.

Gnomes are also a possibility for the primal source, but then again, they would fit the shadow source too (especially since they still seem to have a fondness for illusions) - and that source is left for a later PHB, which would mean that the gnomes might get deferred to the same.

So while I still think that gnomes are more likely, it's not beyond imagining that we get gnolls in the PHB2 and gnomes in the PHB3+.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 1:48AM #13
Viktor_Von_Doom
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Xeviat-DM wrote:

I'm under the assumption this is a joke post. Why would WotC focus on a CE race of demon worshipers rather than a race that has been part of the circle of player races forever?


Cause all ways following tradition is stupid and Gnoll>Gnomes.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 2:00AM #14
The_Fan
Date Joined: Oct 6, 2002
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Ostrakon wrote:

Good point about the existing Gnoll stuff, but maybe the fanboy outcry is enough to get Gnomes in.

Personally, I'd MUCH rather see Gnomes. In my opinion, they're a staple race.

Especially since the "I" class could very well be Illusionist! We can make gnome Illusionists again!


I don't think the Illusionist since Arcane Power confirms the Arcane classes to be Sorcerer and Bard (plus swordmage from FR). My money is on the I being Inquisitor.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 4:32AM #15
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Neutronium_Dragon wrote:

So while I still think that gnomes are more likely, it's not beyond imagining that we get gnolls in the PHB2 and gnomes in the PHB3+.


So being advertised as being in the book in a catalogue sent out by WotC is only enough to make Gnomes "more likely" and not a definite to you?

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 4:41AM #16
TheAranan
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I know Shifters are more likely, but I'd really like to see some 4e support for Shadar-Kai..
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 5:41AM #17
JohnLynch
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TheAranan wrote:

I know Shifters are more likely, but I'd really like to see some 4e support for Shadar-Kai..


I know quite a few people like the Shadar-Kai, but I'm not too fussed on them myself. I definitely wouldn't want one as a player.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 8:37AM #18
Belorin
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Shadar-Kai are more likely to come out in PHB III along with the Shadow power source.

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In related news, I'm afraid I'm going to have to confiscate your 3.5 rulebooks, and force you to convert to the new edition. Where do you live?
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 9:54AM #19
doctorhook
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I'm certain we'll see Shadar-Kai eventually. However, for PH2, bet on:
[indent]Gnome, Goliath, Half-Orc, Shifter, and Doppelganger.[/indent]
It's just the smartest bet.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2008 - 10:44AM #20
That_Blasted_Somoflange
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2002
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doctorhook wrote:

I'm certain we'll see Shadar-Kai eventually. However, for PH2, bet on:
[indent]Gnome, Goliath, Half-Orc, Shifter, and Doppelganger.[/indent]
It's just the smartest bet.


I fully agree. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Since Eberron is coming out in 2009, the same year as PHB2, and 4 out of 5 of those races have important places in Eberron but can easily be added to ANY campaign, these races will most likely be in PHB2.

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