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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 3:50PM
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Date Joined:
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Check out the latest GamerRadioZero podcast for nice spoilers about the Player's Handbook 2! I wrote them down here so you don't have to remember:
Races- first letters Gn, second letters o, e, and h, and one has the last letter of r.
Classes- First letters D, R, B, W, I, T, S, S
"Only three or so are familiar, others are all new to D&D."
My personal bets:
Druid
R
Barbarian
W
I
T
Shaman
S
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 4:26PM
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Didn't Wyatt give the first letters of races in PHB2? You should add those to this thread so we can look at them side by side and ponder. The thing I'd like to know is the PHB2's secondary title. PHB1 is "Player's Handbook: Arcane, Divine, and Martial Heroes." I'd be kinda sad if the second was "Player's Handbook: a smattering of psionic, primal, shadow, and another arcane, heroes" or something like that, but it looks like the sorcerer is almost guaranteed given the two Ss.
Druid is obvious, as is Barbarian, and I'd say Sorcerer as well. The 'I' might be Illusionist. From those letters, though, I don't know what psionic classes they're going for. I didn't think psionics was going to get its own full book in this edition (except the standard Power series book), since there's no mechanical difference between a power that is "psionic" and one from any other source. I'd also like to know exactly what he means by "the rest are completely new to D&D." Does he mean that it's a new name for a pre-existing concept that killed a couple 3.5 classes and took their stuff, or does he mean that we're gonna be totally blown away having never thought of them? I'd be inclined to say the former.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 4:31PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 10, 2008
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Check out the latest GamerRadioZero podcast for nice spoilers about the Player's Handbook 2! I wrote them down here so you don't have to remember:
Races- first letters Gn, second letters o, e, and h, and one has the last letter of r.
Classes- First letters D, R, B, W, I, T, S, S
"Only three or so are familiar, others are all new to D&D."
My personal bets:
Druid
R
Barbarian
W
I
T
Shaman
Sorcerer?
I think that might be one. I think I read in a blog that they were starting on the sorcerer.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 4:33PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 28, 2004
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Bard? It's a big one.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 4:33PM
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Date Joined:
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D - Druid
R -
B - Barbarian
W -
I - Illusionist
T -
S -
S -
Considering that on P.54 of the 4e Players Handbook they specifically named Barbarian, Druid, Monk and Psion as classes, this list does not necessarily bode well for unarmed combat and psionics lovers unless they renamed the monk and psion. Although, Mearls did say that he probably forgot some...
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 4:49PM
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T- Telepath W- Wilder Maybe? 
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 5:17PM
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Date Joined:
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D = Druid
B = Bard
S = Sorcerer
That's my choice of three familiar classes. As for races, I hoping for gnomes and genasi. And we won't know for sure until the PHB2 is ready to print.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 5:35PM
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Binder? Truenamer? Shadowcaster?
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 6:11PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 27, 2004
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D - Druid (Shifter) --Primal--
R - Ritualist --shadow--
B - Barbarian --primal--or... Bard. --arcane--
W - Wilder --psi-- or... Witch --arcane--
I - Illusionist --shadow--
T - Telepath --Psi--
S -Sorcerer --primal --
S -Shaman (Druid nature) --Divine-- or... Shadow Dancer --shadow-- or... Soulknife --Psi--
Ok, here we go... I look for the Bard to be in this cycle, to much has been talked about this class. Perhaps the bard will show up as a PP for the rogue or ranger. It would be disappointing, but better than a showing in the PHB3 or worse, regulated to the Eberron setting. There are four power sources that may make it into this book, Primal, Shadow, Psionic, and Ki. Since the monk is not particularly been talked about and the first letter isn't on the list, we can assume that Ki is going to PHB3.
Primal is in, with the Druid, Sorcerer and possibly the Berserker... err, sorry, the Barbarian.
Shadow is in, with the Illusionist being the mating class to the Gnome race. But the lack of an N means that the Necromancer may be regulated to the Eberron book, or the PHB3 under a different power source (Arcane, perhaps?) Although the Shadow Caster may be a good class to place in this, I believe the Illusionist will take over the powers from that class as it was in 3.5. I want, so bad, the Shadow Dancer to be a full class.
Psi seems lost, though the possibility of Telepath and Soulknife is interesting, I really don't know if Wizards would abandon the Psion name.
So, in order... D-- Druid is a lock. R-- I put Ritualist there because some think it is a good class. This letter is a mystery, but may be a renamed Barbarian here, since... B-- Barbarian (or Berserker) seems to be a good bet, but the Bard was already a lock since before we knew about the Dragonborn. If the Bard gets pushed back to the PHB3, then that would cause some ill feelings that will spill from it being replaced by the wonky Warlord in the first place. W-- Wilder seems like a wild card (pun not intended) but Witch is a long shot I put there cause I really can't think of anything else. I-- Illusionist is a lock, though not having the Necromancer with it might mean that Shadow will return in PHB3, or as I mentioned already, maybe put in Eberron. T-- Is a quizer, but perhaps Wizards will change the name of the Psion to the Telepath.
Two S-- Sorcerer is a lock and Soulknife may be the other Psi class. The Shaman may be saved for later or put in Eberron, but don't discount the possibility of more than eight classes.
Gnome is a lock for the races.
The Half Orc will definatly not be in the PHB2. This is a race that would have been in the PHB1 or not at all. Play a dragonborn instead folks.
So, who has a better theory?
Terms you should know... Spoiler:
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Kit Build - A class build that is self sustaining and has mechanical differences than the normal scale. Started in Essentials. Most are call their own terms, though the Base Class should be said in front of their own terms (Like Assassin/Executioner)
Power Points - A mechanic that was wedged into the PHB3 classes (with the exception of the Monk) from the previous editions. This time, they are used to augment At Wills to be Encounters, thus eliminating the need to choose powers past 4th level.
Mage Builds - Kit builds that are schools of magic for the Wizard. A call back to the previous editions powering up of the wizard. (Wizard/Necromancer, for example) Unlike the previous kit builds, Wizards simply lose their Scribe Rituals feature and most likely still can choose powers from any build, unlike the Kit Builds.
Parcel System - A treasure distribution method that keeps adventurers poor while forcing/advising the DM to get wish lists from players. The version 2.0 rolls for treasure instead of making a list, and is incomplete because of the lack of clarity about magic item rarity.
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They will Essentialize the Essentials classes, otherwise known as Essentials2.
The new sub-sub-classes will be:
* Magician. A subsubclass of Mage, the magician has two implements, wand and hat, one familiar (rabbit) and series of basic tricks.
* Crook. A subsubclass of Thief, the Crook can only use a shiv, which allows him to use his only power... Shank.
* Angry Vicar, a subsubclass of warpriest, the angry vicar has two attacks -- Shame and Lecture.
* Hitter. A subsubclass of Slayer, the Hitter hits things.
* Gatherer. A subsubclass of Hunter, it doesn't actually do anything, but pick up the stuff other players might leave behind.
Future Essentials2 classes include the Security Guard (Sentinel2), the Hexknife (Hexblade2), the Webelos (Scout2), the Gallant (Cavalier2) and the Goofus (Knight2).
These will all be detailed in the box set called Heroes of the Futile Marketing.
(Though what they should really release tomorrow is the Essentialized version of the Witchalok!)
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 6:35PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 21, 2008
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Last letter R, in races. Easily Aasimar.
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