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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 5:55PM #41
Gamer_Zer0
Date Joined: Apr 17, 2007
Posts: 1,322

Darkwolf71 wrote:

I'm sure I'll find something else to complain about shortly, but thanks for that bit.


Great! I'm here all week! Try the veal!

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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 5:59PM #42
Ripjak
Date Joined: Oct 7, 2002
Posts: 11
OMG that site sucks so comprehensively. As a web designer/engineer for a major government agency I would have been shot had I churned out something that is such a usability nightmare.

I can see that if that is the way they are going to launch the DI then I don't have much faith in what the next versions will be. The architecture of the site is crap, there is no meaningful information on anything - in short, it sucks.

my money is safe if that is the way it's going.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 6:12PM #43
Vargasan
Date Joined: Jan 5, 2005
Posts: 41

Gamer_Zer0 wrote:

What if that personal page had a tool that allowed you to put in all the info from your current and retired D&D characters?


Why? I already have my character sheets.

It could also have information about you, your location, age if you choose, what campaigns you're currently running, etc.


Doesn't this forum already provide all of that?
If it is my personal page, how will anyone else see that information anyways?

You could personally select which information you wanted to see. Maybe you'd want to see D&D and D20 Modern content. Maybe you're only interested in seeing articles relating to Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance. When it's launched, Gleemax will allow you to choose what information you want to have on the personal home page that you see when you log on.


I already personally select which information I want to see. I see the D&D main page just fine. I see Green Ronin and Mongoose and Malhavoc's webpages just fine, also. That's the information that I want to see. I wont be able to add new release information or news from 3rd party providers, so again, why?
Why two entirely separate webpages that provide the same content?

Maybe you'll find some blogs you're interested in reading.


Unless it is one from WotC employees or game book designers or freelancers... No.

Maybe one of them is the blog from your DM who posts a weekly round up for what's happened in your campaign. Perhaps he posts that just for your group to see, or maybe he makes it public and lots of other people can come along and read about the adventures of your gaming group. Maybe you'll find some other blogs about campaigns that you'll become interested enough in to want to read.


My DM doesn't use the internet. Has access at home (roommates have it), but never uses it. When I say never, I mean never. Wont happen.
Why read about others' campaigns?

As far as cost goes, we expect that most people who use the site will never pay us anything. And that's fine. But there will be some premium content that will be available for those who choose to become premium members.


[facetious=on]Ooo! I get to pay for "Gleemax" quality?![/facetious]

Again, in summary, why?

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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 6:34PM #44
Gamer_Zer0
Date Joined: Apr 17, 2007
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Vargasan wrote:

Again, in summary, why?


So, I answered your question and gave you information. I didn't get a sense that you actually considered the questions and what ways things might be of interest to you. I got the sense that you were just waiting to see ways you could knock it down and say "No! No! No!" So I am guessing that I could tell you it would mint you gold coins and your response would be, "Gold coins? Who uses gold coins today? Will my local grocer take them?! No, course not. It's stupid and useless. So again, why? Why?!" :P

But maybe I am wrong. Feel free to explain how you're honestly evaluating the possible pluses and minus of this if you'd like.

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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 6:38PM #45
Nobunaga_Oda
Date Joined: Apr 9, 2005
Posts: 72

As far as cost goes, we expect that most people who use the site will never pay us anything. And that's fine. But there will be some premium content that will be available for those who choose to become premium members.


Free you say?

Things are starting to get better .

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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 6:39PM #46
aotrscommander
Date Joined: Jul 18, 2005
Posts: 432

Gamer_Zer0 wrote:

What if that personal page had a tool that allowed you to put in all the info from your current and retired D&D characters? It could also have information about you, your location, age if you choose, what campaigns you're currently running, etc.

You could personally select which information you wanted to see. Maybe you'd want to see D&D and D20 Modern content. Maybe you're only intersted in seeing articles relating to Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance. When it's launched, Gleemax will allow you to choose what information you want to have on the personal home page that you see when you log on.



Maybe you'll find some blogs you're interested in reading. Maybe one of them is the blog from your DM who posts a weekly round up for what's happened in your campaign. Perhaps he posts that just for your group to see, or maybe he makes it public and lots of other people can come along and read about the adventures of your gaming group. Maybe you'll find some other blogs about campaigns that you'll become interested enough in to want to read.

As far as cost goes, we expect that most people who use the site will never pay us anything. And that's fine. But there will be some premium content that will be available for those who choose to become premium members.


I have to concur: why? I really can't see anything that that would give me that would be different from what I get off the forums as they stand.

Now, I'm all for waiting to see what the DI actually turns up like, and I'm not bitter about Dungeon or Dragon (maybe Complete Champion, but that's neither here nor there!), but I have to say that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in me. (Nor is that a critisism of you personally, I hasten to add!)

I am not, it has to be said, the type of person who is at all interested in non-constructive add-ons. I don't have a mobile, but if I did, it would do one of two things; recieve and send out phone calls. Anything else (including texting) is a wasteful extra. What you have said sounds an awful lot like mobile phone gimics; nothing of particular useful interest. I can't see blogs all being Lady Despina's Virtue (or probably even any)...

So what advantage would this forum offer me, the miserable old bugger who would rather dip his bones in liquid anti-caesium than go to a Myspace page?

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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 6:41PM #47
LordKandis
Date Joined: Mar 26, 2004
Posts: 10
To put my own spin on Vargasan's post.

Gamer_Zer0 wrote:

What if that personal page had a tool that allowed you to put in all the info from your current and retired D&D characters? It could also have information about you, your location, age if you choose, what campaigns you're currently running, etc.


I for one would rather as little personal information be on the internet as possible, so no.

And, like Vargasan, I have a nifty little thing called a character sheet to store all my characters and their information on. I don't need to put it up on a site that I can't access when my internet service is down (which happens frequently enough to matter where I live).

And it's no business of anyone save me and my players as to what the current campaign is.

You could personally select which information you wanted to see. Maybe you'd want to see D&D and D20 Modern content. Maybe you're only intersted in seeing articles relating to Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance. When it's launched, Gleemax will allow you to choose what information you want to have on the personal home page that you see when you log on.


Like Vargasan, I check out only what I want to check out.

Everytime the D&D homepage shows Eberron, or DDM articles, I *gasp* skip over them!*gasp*. Sure, I wouldn't mind not even seeing the articles (and really, DDM has it's own section, quit trying to hog the main D&D page!), but hey, there are a lot of things I deal with each day that I'd rather not, and I'm not suffering that badly over that.

Maybe you'll find some blogs you're interested in reading. Maybe one of them is the blog from your DM who posts a weekly round up for what's happened in your campaign. Perhaps he posts that just for your group to see, or maybe he makes it public and lots of other people can come along and read about the adventures of your gaming group. Maybe you'll find some other blogs about campaigns that you'll become interested enough in to want to read.


I'm a member of another site which introduced a blog feature earlier this year, and I have never posted to it, or bothered to look at it beyond the initial "curiosity" look.

Sure, there may be people out there that enjoy blogs, but I'm not one of them. And since I'm likely to be the DM for any group I game with, any of the players seeking to read up on my games in blog format will be sorely disappointed (though I suspect they'll live).

Right now, I'm about as interested in WotC's ill-named Gleemax as I am about the DI, that is, interested in additional information about it, but just about as likely to spontaneously grow wings and a dragons' tail as to partake of this digital-only offering.

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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 6:46PM #48
Gamer_Zer0
Date Joined: Apr 17, 2007
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The simple fact that you folks are reading this thread (and are engaged enough to actually reply) tells me that you'll find plenty of interest in Gleemax.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 6:49PM #49
Nobunaga_Oda
Date Joined: Apr 9, 2005
Posts: 72

Gamer_Zer0 wrote:

The simple fact that you folks are reading this thread (and are engaged enough to actually reply) tells me that you'll find plenty of interest in Gleemax.


Well, it is something "big" don´t you agree? Nobody knows exatly what this Gleemax is or will be. Even now I am confused on what in the blue heck is that site. People are trying to give their feedback. As much I want just to wait till the features are running to test then and give feedback, I have to agree. For now, all I see is more of the same.

Something I would sugest would be a way to play D&D(the table top game) in a forum format, with dice rollers and sheets. That would be a feature I now I would use it.

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6 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2007 - 6:51PM #50
LordKandis
Date Joined: Mar 26, 2004
Posts: 10

Gamer_Zer0 wrote:

The simple fact that you folks are reading this thread (and are engaged enough to actually reply) tells me that you'll find plenty of interest in Gleemax.


Or that we are only interested in how this latest revelation relates to the DI, and are engaged enough to express how unattractive the planned "features" are to us.

Although I'll be sure to notify you personally Mike, if I ever make use of any of the features of Gleemax out of more than passing curiosity.

But I wouldn't hold my breath on that if I were you.

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