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Switch to Forum Live View Ability Scores in the 30s, hell yea!
5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 8:52PM #1
IamBeowulf
Date Joined: May 10, 2008
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Gaining a level (see page 27 of the Player’s Handbook) is the most significant reward the game has to offer, but even that reward has its own tidal rhythm. Characters gain new attack powers at odd-numbered levels, and they gain new feats, ability score increases, and global adjustments to all their attacks and defenses at even-numbered levels.


So this gives you a total of +15 additional points to ability scores by the time you reach level 30. Which means if your fighter could have a 33 strength! That's freaking incredible, how strong would that be in DnD terms, like lifting elephants or something? Or your elf ranger could have a 35 dexterity, your a freaking mongoose now! :OMG!

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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 8:55PM #2
Jedi_Master_Trobon
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Well first of all it doesn't say you get all of those thing ever even numbered level and it also doesn't talk about whether you get to choose them all or if there are any restrictions.
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 9:03PM #3
Nautilus
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I believe that after first level, your PC gets an ability score increase on each level ending with 4, 8 or 1.

That means a score of 16, added to each time, will reach 24 by 30th level - still fairly impressive. The absence of stat-boosting items means it won't go much above that. There still might be stat-boosting rituals that function much as a wish does in 3.5.
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 9:46PM #4
nightwyrm
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What lv 15-20 fighter in 3.5 doesn't have a str near the 30s already? In 4.0, you just get it from leveling rather than from items. It's not that big of a deal.
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 9:58PM #5
kieferz
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In reality, ability scores do not increase at every even level; however, you gain a bonus of one-half your level to attack rolls, defenses (AC, Fort, Ref, Will), skill checks and ability checks. The effect is almost the same as an increase, save that you don't get any increases to damage.
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 10:00PM #6
Crimson_Concerto
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nightwyrm wrote:

What lv 15-20 fighter in 3.5 doesn't have a str near the 30s already? In 4.0, you just get it from leveling rather than from items. It's not that big of a deal.


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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 10:09PM #7
runestar
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nightwyrm wrote:

What lv 15-20 fighter in 3.5 doesn't have a str near the 30s already? In 4.0, you just get it from leveling rather than from items. It's not that big of a deal.


That your str is increasing of your own merit is though.

While it was easy to get at least 32 str in 3.5, the bulk of it came from magic items (tome+5, belt+6, rage+8 etc), meaning that your base str was still relatively low.

How does a fighter in 4e become stronger than a hill giant through adventuring?

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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 10:17PM #8
Nihzlet
Date Joined: Aug 1, 2006
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Posted by Nautilus:
I believe that after first level, your PC gets an ability score increase on each level ending with 4, 8 or 1.


im fairly sure thats right, much as im fairly sure you get feats on even levels plus levels ending in 1. that means you get 8 ability score increases over your career. that takes a 16 starting score to 24. not quite 30 on its own, but there are probably still stat-increasing items out there... and even if not, there are enough things adding to various checks that it shouldnt really matter.

Just thought you should know.

the countdown continues...
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 11:29PM #9
Ramses_III
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That will help damage scale up as the character levels up.
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5 years ago  ::  May 15, 2008 - 11:40PM #10
daredevi1
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You dont get ability score as (STR;DEX...)at every even number lol, you get other stuff,sometimes ref,will,fort;sometimes STR,DEX...,and sometimes something else,because if its not then you would have way above 33 STR on lvl 30 because there will certainly be items in 4e that grant you ability scores too.
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