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5 years ago ::
Apr 30, 2008 - 11:00PM
#181
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Going by the above assumptions, I expect the third paladin path to be the Cavalier. The good thing about that photo however, is that it clearly shows us all 3 powers of the Justicar path, one power for the Hospitalar, and the format used for Class lay-out, as highlighted by the Ranger entry on the opposite page.
Actually, Jonathan Tweet's paragon-tier campaign, Wandering Star, would suggest that Astral Weapon is the third Paladin PP.
This blog post names the following Paragon Paths:
- Spellstorm Mage (Wizard)
- Iron Vanguard (Fighter)
- Battle Archer (Ranger)
- Battle Captain (Warlord)
- Astral Weapon (Paladin)
- Shadow Assasin (Rogue) (Also feature in the PP excerpt)
Now, we have no way of knowing if any of these characters are multiclassed, but there's no indication that they are.
(Aside: The campaign setting is based off of the indie RPG Nine Worlds, so don't be put off by the weird race descriptions. For example, the "dryad" is using Elf rules and racial abilities, but the player was free to change the appearance and origins as they saw fit because the PCs are unique demigods. The Paragon Paths are almost certainly as named.)
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5 years ago ::
Apr 30, 2008 - 11:41PM
#182
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I completely forgot about those paragon paths.... It has been a while since I have read the blog posts. With that being said, I distinctly remember the comment made by the WoTC rep over on enworld.
IIRC, he specifically stated that there was "more than 30 paragon paths in the PHB", but did not specify how many more.
If they are leaving racial paragon paths for the PHB2 in order to further playtest them, each class would have room for 4 paragon paths if we assume the PHB contains 32 paragon paths. IMO, 4 paragon paths per class seems much more flexible and balanced than only giving them 3 in any case.
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5 years ago ::
May 01, 2008 - 12:58AM
#183
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So, in 8 pages why have I seen the OP actually post maybe 4 times?
Some of you guys need to actually make some new posts and stop leaching.
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5 years ago ::
May 01, 2008 - 7:17AM
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That is being used in the new Champions game, the Massive Mutli player online game. They bought the system, lock, stock and barrel.
Oh for the love of... thanks for the warning. Now I know to avoid it.
No. "They" did not. Steve Long and his partners certainly did not sell off the rules for the HERO system. What he DID sell was all the ip (except his one old favorite character, Harbinger, who he couldn't give up) That is all the characters, the cities, all the campaign info... That is what got sold.
I for one am really looking forward to squaring off against Mechanon in downtown Millennium city. Especially since I can do it from my X-Box!
Off-topic: this is completely false. Cryptic purchased the Champions and Dark Champions settings, not the rights to the HERO system. Champions Online will use the Champions setting and character creation inspired by the HERO system, but it will not use the HERO system.
Whoops, Ninjad
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5 years ago ::
May 01, 2008 - 7:54AM
#185
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So, in 8 pages why have I seen the OP actually post maybe 4 times?
Dunno. His profile shows that he hasn't been to the forums since his last post, so would I guess that real life intervened. Who can say?
Some of you guys need to actually make some new posts and stop leaching.
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5 years ago ::
May 01, 2008 - 8:15AM
#186
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So, in 8 pages why have I seen the OP actually post maybe 4 times?
Some of you guys need to actually make some new posts and stop leaching.
Have you ever considered the thought that we are not "leaching" but socializing, and/or having a discussion?
As the progeny of the "Bulletin Board", the sole intent behind forums are to provide a text-based social interface where topics can be discussed via the internet. A thread, by extension - is a single topic, idea, or conversation, and like any true conversation - it can frequently derail into the discussion of one or more additional topics, and are dynamic [read: independant of the person who started the conversation]
I think it is you who should get off your soap box and stop leaching (although trolling is a more accurate word), since you have no authority to tell us to stop participating in a discussion, nor do you have the right to limit how much participation any one individual has over another. Unlike a public gathering, people do not have to take turns communicating on a forum (despite the fact that the software sorts them into post order).
Continuing the analogy to a public gathering, all you have effectively done with your post is to have made a general announcement something to the effect of "Attention please. I would just like to remind you that this conversation is pointless because Joe Bob has left the building".
The best possible reaction you can expect from such a comment in any social arena (including forums), is a mixture of people choosing to completely ignore you (in addition to your announcement), heckling, laughter, and annoyance.
Looks like you got exactly what you could expect from such a comment.
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5 years ago ::
May 01, 2008 - 10:23AM
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Off-topic: this is completely false. Cryptic purchased the Champions and Dark Champions settings, not the rights to the HERO system. Champions Online will use the Champions setting and character creation inspired by the HERO system, but it will not use the HERO system.
In an interview with a mag, it was confirmed that the system would be used, but that all the math and such would be done in the background and the player would never see it. The only thing that is seen is the cost.
I believe they had a system in place already when Marvel pulled the license for the game, so the HERO setting was purchased. They may not have bought the actual system but they are using it in some fashion. I don't see how one can be done without the other.
Terms you should know... Spoiler:
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Kit Build - A class build that is self sustaining and has mechanical differences than the normal scale. Started in Essentials. Most are call their own terms, though the Base Class should be said in front of their own terms (Like Assassin/Executioner)
Power Points - A mechanic that was wedged into the PHB3 classes (with the exception of the Monk) from the previous editions. This time, they are used to augment At Wills to be Encounters, thus eliminating the need to choose powers past 4th level.
Mage Builds - Kit builds that are schools of magic for the Wizard. A call back to the previous editions powering up of the wizard. (Wizard/Necromancer, for example) Unlike the previous kit builds, Wizards simply lose their Scribe Rituals feature and most likely still can choose powers from any build, unlike the Kit Builds.
Parcel System - A treasure distribution method that keeps adventurers poor while forcing/advising the DM to get wish lists from players. The version 2.0 rolls for treasure instead of making a list, and is incomplete because of the lack of clarity about magic item rarity.
ha ha
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They will Essentialize the Essentials classes, otherwise known as Essentials2.
The new sub-sub-classes will be:
* Magician. A subsubclass of Mage, the magician has two implements, wand and hat, one familiar (rabbit) and series of basic tricks.
* Crook. A subsubclass of Thief, the Crook can only use a shiv, which allows him to use his only power... Shank.
* Angry Vicar, a subsubclass of warpriest, the angry vicar has two attacks -- Shame and Lecture.
* Hitter. A subsubclass of Slayer, the Hitter hits things.
* Gatherer. A subsubclass of Hunter, it doesn't actually do anything, but pick up the stuff other players might leave behind.
Future Essentials2 classes include the Security Guard (Sentinel2), the Hexknife (Hexblade2), the Webelos (Scout2), the Gallant (Cavalier2) and the Goofus (Knight2).
These will all be detailed in the box set called Heroes of the Futile Marketing.
(Though what they should really release tomorrow is the Essentialized version of the Witchalok!)
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5 years ago ::
May 01, 2008 - 10:48AM
#188
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In an interview with a mag, it was confirmed that the system would be used, but that all the math and such would be done in the background and the player would never see it. The only thing that is seen is the cost.
I believe they had a system in place already when Marvel pulled the license for the game, so the HERO setting was purchased. They may not have bought the actual system but they are using it in some fashion. I don't see how one can be done without the other.
Well when I talked with Steve Long about it, he assured me that they are NOT using the HERO system, just the characters. And I think he would know.
Can you really not see how they might use Defender fighting Dr. Destroyer WITHOUT using the HERO system?
Don't you think the more likely scenario is they designed a new game system that works for a MMOCRPG when it was going to be using the marvel ip, then when they switched to Champions they used the previous system rather than reprogramming the entire CRPG so it can use the HERO rules?
This is in effect what Cryptic says here.
Cryptic utilizes a proprietary MMO engine that contains all the tools needed to efficiently build and operate massive online games. Developed in house, the engine continues to be upgraded and adjusted by its original creators to improve the engine's versatility and functionality. In addition, Efficient content generation tools have been incorporated to streamline the development process, allowing real time testing of art assets within the game environment.
Emphasis Mine.
But anyway - this discussion risks derailing the threads original intent, so I ain't gonna bring it up again.
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5 years ago ::
May 01, 2008 - 4:37PM
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Oh, I apologize. I thought this was a thread to ask the op about the books from the GAMA show. Instead, I guess this is it's own forum within a forum, since people are talking about everything except the trade show.
Please continue.
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5 years ago ::
May 01, 2008 - 4:43PM
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Oh, I apologize. I thought this was a thread to ask the op about the books from the GAMA show. Instead, I guess this is it's own forum within a forum, since people are talking about everything except the trade show.
Please continue.
Including off-topic trolling. Don't ya just hate it when some pompous jerk does that!
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