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thephantom wrote:

I've worked on a skill system in 3.5e keeping the same skill points for each class as they are. The list is the following (in brackets which the new skills comprise of the old ones):

Acrobatics (Balance, Escape Artist, Tumble)
Alchemy (Craft [alchemy])
Calligraphy (Decipher Script, Forgery)
Climb (Climb)
Concentration (Concentration)
Deception (Bluff, Disguise)
Diplomacy (Diplomacy)
Disable Device (Disable Device)
Fingerly [sorry, I'm Italian and I don't know how to translate "Manualità"] (Open Lock, Sleight of Hand, Use Ropes)
Gather Information (Gather Information)
Handle Animal (Handle Animal)
Heal (Treat Injury)
Intimidate (Intimidate)
Jump (Jump)
Knowledge (Appraise, Knowlegde [as the old individual knowledges])
Ride (Ride)
Sense Motive (Sense Motive)
Senses (Listen, Search, Spot)
Speak Language (Speak Language)
Spellcraft (Spellcraft, Use Magic Device)
Stealth (Hide, Move Silently)
Survival (Survival)
Swim (Swim)

Craft, Profession and Perform are not presente, the first two for their uselessness, the second is now a special feature of the bard (the only class who added ranks in).

I think the best way to describe manualita is probably the term sleight of hand. Sleight of hand generally implies some form of finesse with the hands.

The PHB is suppost to be set for Galleys. So, a set list of Skills must be arround someplace. :D

Well, here are some skills I know with absolute certainty will be showing up in the new edition.

1) Acrobatics: This skill is a combination of balance and tumble, but not escape artist (which really isn't about acrobatics). Part of escape artist is subsumed into sleight of hand, while the combat portion is now just grappling rules (although sleight of hand would probably give a bonus to opposed grapple checks).

2) Stealth: Combination hide and move silently.

3) Sleight of Hand: Has all the same uses from the old skill, plus it includes escape artist (the ability to escape bonds, handcuffs, etc), and use rope for purposes of tieing someone up really really well. Open locks is not part of this skill, instead becoming part of the mechanics skill. The escape artist function of Sleight of Hand only applies to passive bonds and situations, not against opponents actively trying to maintain a grapple. You could use this to escape out from under a pile of quarterbacks (um... orcs in full plate of course), but you couldn't use this to escape from a person trying to wrestle you to the ground, since he can actively oppose your movements. It does grant a bonus on opposed grapple checks, however, and size does matter in a grapple.

4) Mechanics: This skill includes crafting of gear and pully devices, traps, and opening locks. While some will argue that opening locks requires a certain finesse, a person will never be able to open a lock without first understanding how the locking mechanism works. Sleight of hand would possibly give a +2 bonus for purposes of opening locks, but without this skill it would be virtually impossible for a thief to understand how the lock works.

5) Arcana: Combination of the old Knowledge: Arcana skill with Spellcraft and Use Magic Device. All three skills were logically part of the same thing, which is understanding how magic functions. In its simplest form, it allows a person to understand what all the gibberish on that roll of parchment is, and in its more complex form it allows a person to incant the right words or perform the right actions to activate a magical device.

I'm also fairly certain we'll still see climb, jump, and swim as seperate skills. The craft skills would still be present, although craft: trapmaking is now part of the mechanics skill.

Use rope is gone. Most adventurers are assumed to be able to tie a basic knot. Also, certain professions automatically include variants of use rope. A sailor, for example, knows how to make really sturdy knots and loops for various purposes on ship. Similarly, an executioner who regularly hangs people probably knows a thing or two about nooses. The sleight of hand skill allows for a special exception, and that is turning that 50 feet or so of silk rope into a viable straight jacket.

At this point I've decided to use in my 3.75 game a skill for each power source. Use Magic Device will be a part of each of these skills. So a rogue wants to use an arcane wand then learn the skill Arcane.