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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 5:31PM #11
grandhammer2
Date Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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Yeah An announcement on RPGA, and especially Living greyhawk really should be handeled ASAP. Even if its just a hey your 13thlvl blah blah blah just got nuked, as of such and such date when we are switching rpga to 4e.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 5:40PM #12
Anondson
Date Joined: Mar 25, 2001
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It seems a bad omen when on the D&D home page, the RPGA section of the lefthand sidebar links to Eberron, Forgotten Realms, D&D Miniatures . . . but not Living Greyhawk.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 6:40PM #13
PhoenixInferno
Date Joined: Aug 26, 2003
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Eric Anondson wrote:

It seems a bad omen when on the D&D home page, the RPGA section of the lefthand sidebar links to Eberron, Forgotten Realms, D&D Miniatures . . . but not Living Greyhawk.


Despite not playing LG, I'd feel really bad if they nuked it just like that. It is my sincere wish that it be continued, since its been with us for so long.

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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 7:24PM #14
Kensan_Oni
Date Joined: Oct 11, 2005
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With Forgotten Realms being placed back into mainstream support, can we expect Living City to make a return?
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 7:33PM #15
Anondson
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With Forgotten Realms being placed back into mainstream support, can we expect Living City to make a return?

I don't think they'd do that. Living Greyhawk and Living City were around at the same time right after 3e came out. LG came out and put LC to shame in play numbers. If they retire Living Greyhawk there is even less reason to bring back Living City.

If they retire LG and want to have something as popular as LG then the RPGA needs to have a similar geographically dispersed campaign with regions associated with real world places. You can't do that with Living City.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 7:53PM #16
zombiegleemax
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I'd be for a Living Hackmaster so it's said (several times) on the boards, but that's just me.

Alright then, LG shouldn't be going anywhere I hope. It'd be nice to see a little bit of shaking up, like making Kobolds a core PC race in 4th Edition (4ed), known for they're native home of the Shield Lands....

The community is really what makes LG work though, the people write the mods, the people review them and submit them, and wizards takes those and distributes them to other players who run them at home/work/school/conventions/etc. So long as there are thousands of people who want to enjoy a good old adventure in Greyhawk I don't see any logical recourse for them to change that. I wouldn't be against other living campaigns coming up and trying them out, but everyone here in MN is so anti-Eberron it makes me sad. I like Ebby.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 8:28PM #17
danhass
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What I don't understand is why WotC keeps coming out with level-bumped campaigns. I know hundreds of players who are avid DnD players and of those a handful - perhaps a dozen - tolerate Eberron because they like the setting but /none/ - let me reiterate 0/200+ /like/ level bumps.

Several of us were quite excited about Saga until ... level-bumped campaign. What a let down...

I hope that whatever campaigns evolve around 4th edition WotC will finally recognize that role players like to play their characters, not have them mysteriously morph into higher level PCs.

Dan
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 8:53PM #18
Anondson
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danhass wrote:

What I don't understand is why WotC keeps coming out with level-bumped campaigns.


I agree. I can only speculate what the philisophy behind WotC's thinking is, but I think after Living Greyhawk got going RPGA/WotC wanted much more control in the direction of the campaign's stories and plots.

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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 10:41PM #19
Maldin
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2004
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Quote from "Inquest Gamer"..
And yes, Wizards does recommend you begin new campaigns with Fourth Edition. “It’s not going to be as huge a jump,” as from Second Edition to Third Edition, said Slavicsek, “but there’s enough changing in the core system of how we are doing classes and races and characters that we’re not even gonna attempt it—we’re just telling you it’s better to start over.”

This does not sound good for Living Greyhawk at all. Considering its been far and away the most successful campaign the RPGA has ever run, the seemingly inevitable loss of LG will be a terrible terrible mistake.

And what of Greyhawk as a campaign setting?? I'm still reading through the thousands of posts that have been made in the last 24 hours, but I haven't seen anything definitive yet. I'm pessimistic, while still holding out hope.

Denis, aka "Maldin"
Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2007 - 1:22AM #20
PhoenixInferno
Date Joined: Aug 26, 2003
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Maldin wrote:

Quote from "Inquest Gamer"..
And yes, Wizards does recommend you begin new campaigns with Fourth Edition. “It’s not going to be as huge a jump,” as from Second Edition to Third Edition, said Slavicsek, “but there’s enough changing in the core system of how we are doing classes and races and characters that we’re not even gonna attempt it—we’re just telling you it’s better to start over.”

This does not sound good for Living Greyhawk at all. Considering its been far and away the most successful campaign the RPGA has ever run, the seemingly inevitable loss of LG will be a terrible terrible mistake.


That doesn't mean that LG is going to go away, it just means that they're going to make you ditch your characters.

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