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6 years ago ::
Sep 26, 2007 - 3:46PM
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What criteria they used was not divulged.
I assume that the process of actual selection has some criteria. But the initial drawing was, essentially, a lottery. As far as we know.
There's been some indication that they'll keep going until they get the number of playtest groups they want/need. And there may be multiple "waves" of playtesting.
So we wait. And hope.
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6 years ago ::
Sep 26, 2007 - 3:48PM
#292
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If that's a joke, it's way to hard to tell in a text medium.
Is it?
If it is, I'm laughing at it. Good one, Galphanore.
If it's not, then I'm laughing, just for a different, and much less positive, reason.
Unfortunately it's not a joke, but WotC seems to think it is :
Playtesting: Chris Tulach (Grand High Mogul of the Steppes and RPGA honcho) and I were sharing a chuckle over barbecue yesterday. Some DDI folks say they wish the playtest selection process wasn't so random. And some RPGA members say they wish the playtest selection process was more random so everyone would get a chance. Turns out we can't win.
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6 years ago ::
Sep 26, 2007 - 5:51PM
#293
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F.U.B.A.R.So, basically, some dude out there -- or hundreds of these dudes -- that hasn't ever played D&D, but has a forum account for M:tG or some other non-D&D game that the forums represents is getting the invite. 
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6 years ago ::
Sep 26, 2007 - 6:07PM
#294
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F.U.B.A.R.
So, basically, some dude out there -- or hundreds of these dudes -- that hasn't ever played D&D, but has a forum account for M:tG or some other non-D&D game that the forums represents is getting the invite.
Distinctly possible.
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6 years ago ::
Sep 26, 2007 - 11:34PM
#295
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I hope that Wizard's doesn't just think picking random people is a good idea. Because their choice on the rules will determine whether they get my money during the run of 4th ed. If the system turns out to be junk I will buy my stuff from another gaming company.
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6 years ago ::
Sep 27, 2007 - 4:56AM
#296
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Distinctly possible.
The way that WotC has handled 4E since it's announcement reeks of incompetence. Why should we expect their handling of playtesting to be any different?
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6 years ago ::
Sep 27, 2007 - 5:33AM
#297
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The way that WotC has handled 4E since it's announcement reeks of incompetence.
Says our local marketing expert...
LOL
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6 years ago ::
Sep 27, 2007 - 5:42AM
#298
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WotC's PR goal: Get people excited about 4th edition. Attract new players, and keep as many current players as possible.
What actually happened: Many current players are upset or ambivalent about 4th edition. We don't know how many new players it will attract, but do we really think they will leave their MMORPG's for D&D?
Do you think they succeeded?
Playtesting was a real opportuinity for them to make us feel like we had a part in 4th edition's development. Don't you feel that there should have been a way for people that actually want to playtest have a better chance to get invited than some kid posting on the Magic: the Gathering boards? Isn't this a slap in the face to people who earnestly want to playtest 4th edition and make it the best game possible? We were told that there would be a way to sign up. Some sort of application process. Then, they say it will be a random lottery of forum account owners. Doesn't this rub you the wrong way?
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6 years ago ::
Sep 27, 2007 - 5:59AM
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WotC's PR goal: Get people excited about 4th edition. Attract new players, and keep as many current players as possible.
What actually happened: Many current players are upset or ambivalent about 4th edition. We don't know how many new players it will attract, but do we really think they will leave their MMORPG's for D&D?
Do you think they succeeded?
Playtesting was a real opportuinity for them to make us feel like we had a part in 4th edition's development. Don't you feel that there should have been a way for people that actually want to playtest have a better chance to get invited than some kid posting on the Magic: the Gathering boards? Isn't this a slap in the face to people who earnestly want to playtest 4th edition and make it the best game possible? We were told that there would be a way to sign up. Some sort of application process. Then, they say it will be a random lottery of forum account owners. Doesn't this rub you the wrong way?
Speaking for myself, which is all your doing remember. I think they have succeeded. I am excited about 4e. Would I have liked to be in the first wave of playtesting? Of course. Do I get my panties in a wad because it didn't happen? Nope. Instead my group is going to port over some of the SW saga edition rules and try our own shot at a 4e preview so we can hit the ground running when the new edition does come out.
Not sure why you are so miffed at not being able to playtest anyway. All you have done is bash them at every opportunity. You must have a secret desire to actually play 4e. Good of you to finally admit that you are looking forward to 4e.
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6 years ago ::
Sep 27, 2007 - 6:02AM
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Aug 27, 2007
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Reminder : when you subscribe to the forums, you got the option of checking what products you use, so we can expect that only those that have specified D&D among their hobbies are eligibles for the playtest selection. Or they might just select among all subscribing that have posted at least once on D&D forums (or maybe only those having posted on the 4th edition forums) They said that the selection itself was random, but not that there wasn't any element impacting it. Some DDI folks say they wish the playtest selection process wasn't so random. And some RPGA members say they wish the playtest selection process was more random so everyone would get a chance. Turns out we can't win.
Note that they said "wasn't so random", not "wasn't random", so we can expect that they didn't just select randomly among all accounts.
I suppose that a MtG only account and that hadn't been use for 2 years wouldn't have any chance of being selected.
I agree that an application form would have been better, but I don't think that a random (or pseudo-random) selection deserve a bashing.
Just keep calm and civil, and don't forget that there will probably be more wave of playtesting until release (and maybe some after).
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