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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 7:24AM
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Surprised this one hasn't been posted. I have seen many people post saying that they want to do away with the alignment system. I wouldn't care if they kept it or revamped it with something new. Personally I would like to see some type of honor system that reflects the old alignment system but easier to adjust.
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 7:58AM
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I wouldn't mind seeing the idea of "allegiances" brought over from d20 Modern, for a more nuanced take on characters' moralities and motivations.
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 8:07AM
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Aug 29, 2007
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I've never had problems with alignments and never understood how come so many do...
It's simple and almost realistic as reality itself, what can i hope better?
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 8:25AM
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I wouldn't mind seeing the idea of "allegiances" brought over from d20 Modern, for a more nuanced take on characters' moralities and motivations.
I second that.
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 8:47AM
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Aug 13, 2006
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I've read they won't take out alignment for all. Well, PLEASE make it to be a SUGGESTION PATH to players, not a obligation code. Many DMs make the aligment thing so tied that people who change theirs get XP penalty - or even worse, simply do not let the change! 
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 8:51AM
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Aug 29, 2007
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It's stupidity (or maybe unperscrutable Will, but often it's only stupidity) of those DM, because it's fairly said that alignment are not ties, nor locks, nor anything similar...
They ARE a suggestion for the character to behave and no more than the label of what a PC is in that moment of his Life... people change, no one keeps the same alignment for 50 years... it's already natural to change over a month (but not to change EVERY month :P )...
One must create the PC's psychology and THEN label it with appropriate alignment, not choose an alignment and then make sure that he doesn't cross its borders...
Then, there are the "small deviations", like a LG which is getting provoked like no one before, and he ends up exploding in rage... when he calms down, he regains his reason and may even regret what he has done... that little deviation doesn't mean he's become CE (unless he kills intentionally even someone that was not involved), he is still LG, he just got angered like never before, but just once...
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 1:25PM
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It's stupidity (or maybe unperscrutable Will, but often it's only stupidity) of those DM, because it's fairly said that alignment are not ties, nor locks, nor anything similar...
They ARE a suggestion for the character to behave and no more than the label of what a PC is in that moment of his Life... people change, no one keeps the same alignment for 50 years... it's already natural to change over a month (but not to change EVERY month :P )...
One must create the PC's psychology and THEN label it with appropriate alignment, not choose an alignment and then make sure that he doesn't cross its borders...
Then, there are the "small deviations", like a LG which is getting provoked like no one before, and he ends up exploding in rage... when he calms down, he regains his reason and may even regret what he has done... that little deviation doesn't mean he's become CE (unless he kills intentionally even someone that was not involved), he is still LG, he just got angered like never before, but just once...
I share your view on this Sol.People should come up with a character concept (including personality traits & demeanor) before choosing a alignment.But I wouldn't mind them scrapping the current system & using one similar to Palladium's or replace it with a demeanor/trait system.
Currently I'm playing a unprincipled Nomadic Elf in the Rolemaster game & a anarchistic human Assassin in the Palladium FRPG (Which I reget..the choice in OCC mainly ,alignment secondly).
Lucifer the Puritan
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 1:43PM
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Feb 26, 2007
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I've never had problems with alignments and never understood how come so many do...
It's simple and almost realistic as reality itself, what can i hope better?
No. Alignment is not realistic. It's absurd and oversimplified.
We should choose what a character's ideals and loyalties are based on a far more individualized system.
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 1:55PM
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I too think the alignment system is oversimplified. It makes it hard to play an evil PC and not have him kill for fun. Most people expect it of you. "You are the evil PC, so why havent you gone on a murderous rampage yet?" "Cause I am not THAT evil!" It should be by degrees. Not every CE person you meet is going to be anywhere near as bad as a demon. Just like that LG Paladin over there may not be as virtous and just as an Astral Deva.
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6 years ago ::
Aug 30, 2007 - 1:58PM
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Feb 26, 2007
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I too think the alignment system is oversimplified. It makes it hard to play an evil PC and not have him kill for fun. Most people expect it of you. "You are the evil PC, so why havent you gone on a murderous rampage yet?" "Cause I am not THAT evil!" It should be by degrees. Not every CE person you meet is going to be anywhere near as bad as a demon. Just like that LG Paladin over there may not be as virtous and just as an Astral Deva.
Sort of like the BoED thing. "I'm LG, but not that LG. Yikes."
EDIT: Though, they should've gone the other direction. Added degrees that weren't even further toward the extreme.
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