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Braces wrote:

Then judging by the same logic (that one can subsitute AoOs and the like for special attacks), would it be fair to allow the starmantle affect to apply to worn items? They'd likely be covered by the cloak (whether or not the cloak itself is affected is up to the DM to decide, but I'd say it would be), and thus they'd only take half damage. Coupled with evasion (which states that any attack the would deal half damage on a successful save would do none), my first few items would be intact, and possibly others, depending on the cloak.

Not sure how the same logic applies, though its an interesting question that I will give my points for:
Evasion (Ex)

At 2nd level and higher, a rogue can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If she makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, she instead takes no damage. Evasion can be used only if the rogue is wearing light armor or no armor. A helpless rogue does not gain the benefit of evasion.

A simple attack from a weapon doesn't normally allow reflex saves for half damage, the reason you can save for half damage is because of a special ability from the cloak, not under "normal" circumstances.

Also, Starmantle allows a reflex save for half damage, any time the wearer is struck by a weapon for damage. I'm not striking you the wearer, I'm be striking your possessions. Though this part is a little less clear and I could certainly see this going either way.

Even if Starmantle Does allow a save for half damage, my damage would still be enough to take out each item I targeted, because none of them have over 30 combined hp/hardness

Braces wrote:

"Same logic"-- I was thinking about something else at first.

The evasion thing-- I think it's actually a rather heated debate in other parts of the boards. About the normal thing: can you think of any other exceptions to this rule besides Starmantle? I sure can't.

Possessions: If you can substitute a strike against me for a strike against my stuff, I see no reason why I can't subsititute my save for my items rather than myself. Most of them are covered by the cloak anyway, with the exception of my helmet, mask, and maybe boots.

Agreed, if the DM rules evasion doesn't work, than the argument is moot anyway.

On Evasion, no but that's because the "normally" only applies to normal regular, every day run of the mill attacks, which is why it doesn't work with starmantle. Starmantle is basically Evasion for everyone, applying to physical attacks.

Starmantle + Evasion and +15 reflex save = immune to physical damage, according to the Evasion logic, which just seems blatantly broken and not the way it was intended.

That's a legitimate point on Possessions, I'd feel the same way, were I on the other end of the stick.