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house rules are just ways of bending the rules so u always come out on top

Keep in mind DM's make houserules, players who make their own are called cheaters.

Generally when a DM makes a houserule, it is so the game runs smoother, or in a more enjoyable manner.

If the DM is a poor DM, the rules may be made to make the players, or a specific player have less fun, but thats generally not the case.

When a DM changes a rule, in order to make the game run smoother, it generally is in a manner that limits an action that group has deemed overpowered, and is limiting to the players so that they are less powerful. That is almost the opposite of cheating to come out on top.

A common houserule is to limit druids by not letting them into the Planar Shepard PrC which is commonly deemed overpowered. (because it lets your team take 10 actions to the enemies 1) It is very powerful, and so many DM's limit player access to it. If this were done in order to let the players come out ontop, the DM would make it so that every player was required to take this class, not the other way around.

You seem new, so I will warn you that you might want to explain what exactly about house rules you dislike, otherwise you are going to be accused of stiring up trouble, and then possibly banned.

i see wat u mean this might just mean that my dm sucks because he would let other peps be drow but not me

I'm ok with house rules. What does bother me is house rules for a game thats not out yet.

You wouldn't walk into a five-star resturaunt, order a meal, then go back into the kitchen to make suggestions of what to add to the chef after sampling a few ingreditants, would you?

I can't see why people want to come up with modifications for a product that isn't even released yet, heaven forbidd they see the rule book first and then decide whether they want or need to make a house-rule.

I guess as a maker of games myself it kind of strikes me as a "how dare you question the creator's rules?" kinda thing. I trust when some-one comes up with a game they have the good sense to get everything right, and if changes need to be made the makers will fix them, as they know best, as they came up with the rules in the first ****ing place!

So, in conclusion, play how you want to play. If you want to make a house rule, thats cool and have every right to, but it'd be nice to be patient and look at the rules before up and declaring changes that should be made.

defender_of_odintyr wrote:

I'm ok with house rules. What does bother me is house rules for a game thats not out yet.

You wouldn't walk into a five-star resturaunt, order a meal, then go back into the kitchen to make suggestions of what to add to the chef after sampling a few ingreditants, would you?

I can't see why people want to come up with modifications for a product that isn't even released yet, heaven forbidd they see the rule book first and then decide whether they want or need to make a house-rule.

I guess as a maker of games myself it kind of strikes me as a "how dare you question the creator's rules?" kinda thing. I trust when some-one comes up with a game they have the good sense to get everything right, and if changes need to be made the makers will fix them, as they know best, as they came up with the rules in the first ****ing place!

So, in conclusion, play how you want to play. If you want to make a house rule, thats cool and have every right to, but it'd be nice to be patient and look at the rules before up and declaring changes that should be made.

Except, that is completely ignoring the history of the game in question. D&D grew out of what was essentially a few different sets of house rules for Chainmail (Rules for Medieval Miniatures). Houserules are a huge part of the spirit of Dungeons & Dragons, and to play without them is almost more disrespectful to the game than to overuse them is... almost.