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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 4:04PM #31
DMaple
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Date Joined: Mar 20, 2001
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InsertNameHere wrote:

Any more (or a monthly fee) and I'd rather get along with open-source or freeware, which there will be. Wizards would do well to give a free subscription to people buying a core boxed set or a kit of that sort.


$9.95 a month if the press pack is to be believed, although I suppose for that you get Dragon and Dungeon content, and all the other bells and whistles.

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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 4:39PM #32
MindWandererB
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You guys really need to make an official statement about cost. A whole bunch of us are flat-out unwilling to pay subscription fees, whether because of budget or on principle, and are wondering if they'll get the full value of 4e without it. A flat fee for the toolset and a subscription fee for the game table would be reasonable.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 4:52PM #33
Radazim
Date Joined: Jan 9, 2003
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MindWandererB wrote:

You guys really need to make an official statement about cost. A whole bunch of us are flat-out unwilling to pay subscription fees, whether because of budget or on principle, and are wondering if they'll get the full value of 4e without it. A flat fee for the toolset and a subscription fee for the game table would be reasonable.


I really have a hard time seeing how $9.95 a month is going to be a deal-breaker for all but the genuinely poorest, or most obstinate, gamer.

This assumes that in exchange for that fee, we will get at least:
-Content equivalent to both Dungeon and Dragon magazines (an $80/year value! That's 2/3 of your fee right there.)
-A fully supported, continuously updated character generator
-A fully supported, continuously updated adventure generator
-A fully supported, continuously updated "virtual gaming table" that supports some form of "uploading" electronic adventures
-Digital access to the rulebooks, updated with errata as needed, available in PDF form so that we haul them down to Kinkos and have them printed and bound if we so choose.

I agree that we need to wait and see details before we start foaming at the mouth about paying a monthly fee.

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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 4:59PM #34
CygnusDarius
Date Joined: Feb 15, 2006
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Not all of us live in the US, so the cost is slightly higher; and I'm, for the moment, a jobless college student and I'm sure as hell not going to borrow money to pay for the access. Still, if the price is right (and I finally land a job), I'll chip in.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 5:14PM #35
Obsidianjaerc
Date Joined: May 10, 2003
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Not a lot to do until they tell us the fee. Then we can return to our regularly scheduled complaining.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 5:14PM #36
Templario
Date Joined: Aug 13, 2006
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How about paying methods in other countries, like Brazil? Only credit card? What about representatives, like Devir (the actual one to translate D&D books in Brazil)?
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 5:22PM #37
zombiegleemax
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For the poor, there is always OpenRPG.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 5:27PM #38
SoulCatcher78
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2007
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Has anyone pinned down a monthly cost? If what they described at the Gen Con announcement is going to work, it would be worth a small fee ($8-12/month) IMO but not more than that. Less would of course be better for the casual (once a month) gamer. If we could have seperate options available (no Dragon/Dungeon sub for the lower amount) that would be a win across the board IMO.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 5:49PM #39
Anondson
Date Joined: Mar 25, 2001
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All I ask is that the DI (D&D Insider) be platform neutral.

No Silverlight. No Flash. No Java.

Do it so a standards-compliant web browser can do it all. AJAX should be all that is needed.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2007 - 5:52PM #40
Sals
Date Joined: Mar 10, 2005
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Eric Anondson wrote:

All I ask is that the DI (D&D Insider) be platform neutral.

No Silverlight. No Flash. No Java.

Do it so a standards-compliant web browser can do it all. AJAX should be all that is needed.


I second this. I would want to be able to use it regardless of my platform. I will not choose a platform based on DI.

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