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5 years ago ::
Mar 19, 2008 - 3:32PM
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It was said around Gen Con that the Icons line was going to be put on hold indefinately. Much like Dragons of the Hourglass Mage, which was supposed to be released in July but has been put on hold indefinately, amazon got ahold of Wizards catalog and put everything up for pre-order and when Wizards changed things amazon didn't.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 19, 2008 - 4:08PM
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It was said around Gen Con that the Icons line was going to be put on hold indefinately. Much like Dragons of the Hourglass Mage, which was supposed to be released in July but has been put on hold indefinately, amazon got ahold of Wizards catalog and put everything up for pre-order and when Wizards changed things amazon didn't.
The Rouse said it himself on ENWorld:
D&D Icons: Gargantuan Dracolich (D&D Miniatures Product) Aug 19, 2008
Nope, on hold with Gar. Orcus[/quote]
[url=http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=217867]Linky.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 19, 2008 - 4:21PM
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"On hold" is neither "released" nor "never officially announced." It looks like we've got yet another claim here.  OK, at least I will stop beating this dead horse now. Sorry for whining. 
Rob Bodine
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5 years ago ::
Mar 19, 2008 - 4:27PM
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"On hold" is neither "released" nor "never officially announced." It looks like we've got yet another claim here.
OK, at least I will stop beating this dead horse now. Sorry for whining.
Hey, I feel your pain.
Back when they released that Monster Manual pack, I e-mailed Customer Service to find out if they would be updating the MM2 and Fiend Folio to the 3.5 rules. The first person I talked to said yes, but when I asked again (after having a bunch of posters on these boards tell me the guy must have been wrong), a different rep told me the first guy was, indeed, wrong and they were not going to be updated. They were merely repackaging unsold stock to get it out of the warehouse or whatever ... 
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5 years ago ::
Mar 20, 2008 - 3:29PM
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Damn... I was realy looking forward to the icons. Especialy becuase they're one of the few things you can pit against a epic good party.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 20, 2008 - 4:38PM
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"On hold indefinately" is just a nice way of saying "It has been canceled" in most cases, so no icons for us which is not a surprise when the metallic dragons are not in the MM.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 20, 2008 - 5:23PM
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There is an update booklet available for download on the main site that has all the updates for both MM2 and the Fiend Folio.
According to Worlds and Monsters the metallic dragons will be in the MM1 with 2 differences. First they will be changing the Brass and Bronze dragons for the Iron and Adamantine dragons. Second metallics are no longer always good aligned.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 20, 2008 - 7:22PM
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There is an update booklet available for download on the main site that has all the updates for both MM2 and the Fiend Folio.
Yes, I know. I had been hoping that those changes were going to be incorporated into the text of the books themselves but, alas, it was not to be.
According to Worlds and Monsters the metallic dragons will be in the MM1 with 2 differences. First they will be changing the Brass and Bronze dragons for the Iron and Adamantine dragons. Second metallics are no longer always good aligned.
These things we also know. However, as has already been mentioned, we have since learned that the metallic dragons are not going to be in the MM1. This was obviously a decision made after Worlds & Monsters was published and WotC has said on a number of occasions not to take what's written in either preview book as gospel as things were changing rapidly at the time they came out and are, to a certain extent, still changing. They are merely meant to be a "snapshot of the design process".
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5 years ago ::
Mar 21, 2008 - 6:36AM
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Try telling that to my friend. When ever i tell him something I've learned of
4th edition, he flips out becuase aparently owning wizards presents: classes and races makes him the master of 4E. Any way.. do think that if the metalics can be bad, the cromatics can be good? Just a thought, becuase this gives me the perfect chance to mess with player's heads.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 21, 2008 - 1:55PM
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Then I will ask you to give me the quote saying the metallics will not be in the MM1. Everything I have seen seems to say they will be there otherwise why waste the time to create 2 new dragon types?
Yes chromatics are no longer always evil. From the way it sounds the only things that are always a specific alignment will be a rare exception to the general rule.
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