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9 years ago ::
Jan 02, 2004 - 10:09PM
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I am confussed about the shape of the line effects (be it breath weapon or spell). I know they are typically 6 in range but can I determine the shape? An example:
xxxBxx
xxxoxx
xxooxx
xxoxxx
xxoxxx
xxAxxx
xxxBxx
xxxoxx
xxxoxx
xxxoxx
xxoxxx
xxAxxx
xxoBxx
xxoxxx
xxoxxx
xxoxxx
xxoxxx
xxAxxx
Where A is say, a silver sorcerer and B is some bad guy. The o's are where the lightning bolt goes. If (as is typical) there are friendly troops inbetween. Can you tell your opponent where the bolt goes or does it follow some predetermined path? Are the above diagram legal?
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9 years ago ::
Jan 02, 2004 - 10:41PM
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The easiest way to figure it out is to pick a corner (usually the back far corner) of the target, nearest Ally or Enemy. We usually take a string and drop it down. Any square it goes through is affected. It continues out past the target to a range of 12 damaging all equally (barring immunities, resistances and saves of course). Diagram on page 24 of the Skirmish rules is the best example I can think of. You can actually affect a lot of squares if you position yourself right. Timothy Originally posted by full_plate
I am confussed about the shape of the line effects (be it breath weapon or spell). I know they are typically 6 in range but can I determine the shape? An example:
xxxBxx
xxxoxx
xxooxx
xxoxxx
xxoxxx
xxAxxx
xxxBxx
xxxoxx
xxxoxx
xxxoxx
xxoxxx
xxAxxx
xxoBxx
xxoxxx
xxoxxx
xxoxxx
xxoxxx
xxAxxx
Where A is say, a silver sorcerer and B is some bad guy. The o's are where the lightning bolt goes. If (as is typical) there are friendly troops inbetween. Can you tell your opponent where the bolt goes or does it follow some predetermined path? Are the above diagram legal?
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9 years ago ::
Jan 02, 2004 - 10:44PM
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Trace a line from a corner of a square in the attacking creature's space to a corner of a square in the target creature's space. The line affects all squares that the line goes through or touches. The line continues to its maximum range, usually going past the target and possibly affecting more creatures.
If you can get hold of the Miniatures Handbook, there's also a picture on page 122.
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9 years ago ::
Jan 03, 2004 - 8:37AM
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One interesting thing that has been pointed out is that if the line follows one of the gridlines it affects a 10 foot wide path.
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9 years ago ::
Jan 03, 2004 - 12:37PM
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It does. And the effect is also interesting if it follows a diagonal, so: ..........
.......**.
......***.
.....***..
....***...
...***....
..***.....
.***......
***.......
C*........ Cheers!
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9 years ago ::
Jan 03, 2004 - 1:08PM
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That one seems a little more controversial. It could be argued that a "straight" diagonal line would affect a path one square wide, instead of tree. I think I agree with you, but it's a bit less clear than the other one. Originally posted by MerricB
It does. And the effect is also interesting if it follows a diagonal, so:
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.......**.
......***.
.....***..
....***...
...***....
..***.....
.***......
***.......
C*........
Cheers!
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9 years ago ::
Jan 03, 2004 - 1:16PM
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By the letter of the rules, that's how the diagonal line works. Mind you, I'm not sure about the first intersection. More likely it is: ..........
.......**.
......***.
.....***..
....***...
...***....
..***.....
.***......
.**.......
C......... Cheers!
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9 years ago ::
Jan 03, 2004 - 1:17PM
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Originally posted by Khaim
That one seems a little more controversial. It could be argued that a "straight" diagonal line would affect a path one square wide, instead of tree. I think I agree with you, but it's a bit less clear than the other one.
Merric is correct. It really does affect all the squares he showed. If it helps, you can think of a line as being a five-foot wide effect that is centered along the imaginary line drawn from the origin point to a corner of the defender's square. Because this five-foot wide effect would clearly pass through those other squares, the creatures in those squares would be affected.
(Keep in mind that the above is not how you actually ajudicate a line effect in the minatures game; it's just a way of justifying why it behaves as Merric explained.)
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9 years ago ::
Jan 03, 2004 - 1:26PM
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Mar 17, 2001
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Guy, do you know if the origin intersection of the line spell is counted for squares it affects? I know there was some question about whether it affected the caster as well.  Cheers!
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9 years ago ::
Jan 03, 2004 - 1:44PM
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The caster isn't affected (unless the caster chooses an origin point on the "back" side of his square relative to the target creature).
The diagram that accompanies the line description shows the intent of the rule. I'll make sure this gets clarified in the FAQ or errata.
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