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4 months ago  ::  Feb 21, 2013 - 3:03PM #1
Candlestick
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Other than Bounty Hunter can anyone suggest a prestiege class for a Big Game Hunter / Sharpshooter style character?
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 21, 2013 - 3:30PM #2
StevenO
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What system are you looking at?  The RCR or SAGA?  I'm just asking because I think I've seen both a "Sharpshooter" and a "Big Game Hunter" PrC for the RCR.

Now my question to you is "what do you expect for your Big Game Hunter/Sharpshooter character?"  The CT-Killer often used as a Sniper utilizes Bounty Hunter and Gunslinger.  A big part of me also wants to say that the Vanguard class (CWCG) can also be used for a hunter type player.

The real questions isn't what PrCs we can suggest for your character but rather what do you want for your character so we can just find the ways to get it.  Although many game mechanics have some fluff associated with them you can just throw out all of that provided the game mechanics provide you with the things you are looking for. 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 12:56AM #3
Candlestick
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I was looking the SAGA system.

Was there ever any conversion of classes and PrC from RCR to Saga edition?
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 2:34AM #4
MasterArkaine
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The Assassin PrC in Scum and Villiainy has some great Sniper talents in it's Assassin tree that will fit in with a Hunter-style character. The same book has the sniper blaster rifle as well, very good for hunting, along with different mods to give the gun better sniping ability (is Double Trigger, etc.)

The Carbineer tree for Gunslingers in Legacy Era Campaign Guide allows you to customize for using rifles as your main gun. Very good talents there. Some good weapon choices as well like the hunting blaster carbine.

Scout and it Awareness tree, for Acute Senses and Keen Shot (Ignore concealment penalties when shooting, but not total concealment) are a must. It's the class made for tracking and hunting.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 2:37AM #5
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Feb 22, 2013 -- 12:56AM, Candlestick wrote:

I was looking the SAGA system.

Was there ever any conversion of classes and PrC from RCR to Saga edition?




Not that I know of. Most of Saga's PrCs are better from RCR PrCs I've seen except for all the passive bonuses some of them gave out (most of which have no need anyway in Saga)

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 11:05AM #6
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Feb 22, 2013 -- 2:34AM, MasterArkaine wrote:

The Assassin PrC in Scum and Villiainy has some great Sniper talents in it's Assassin tree that will fit in with a Hunter-style character. The same book has the sniper blaster rifle as well, very good for hunting, along with different mods to give the gun better sniping ability (is Double Trigger, etc.)

The Carbineer tree for Gunslingers in Legacy Era Campaign Guide allows you to customize for using rifles as your main gun. Very good talents there. Some good weapon choices as well like the hunting blaster carbine.

Scout and it Awareness tree, for Acute Senses and Keen Shot (Ignore concealment penalties when shooting, but not total concealment) are a must. It's the class made for tracking and hunting.


This. Don't forget class does not equal character concept. Just because a character has classes in Assassin PrC doesn't mean he is an actual "Assassin."

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 11:56AM #7
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Feb 22, 2013 -- 12:56AM, Candlestick wrote:

I was looking the SAGA system.

Was there ever any conversion of classes and PrC from RCR to Saga edition?


In all honesty I never say a need to convert classes or PrCs from the RCR to SAGA.  Maybe there were some concepts that could be used to create a talent tree but in all honesty SAGA doesn't need more classes and probably could get by fine with fewer of them if some talent trees were better distributed.

As Richterbelmont actually points out and I hinted at earlier in the thread "names do NOT equal concepts."  You don't need levels in Bounty Hunter to be a bounty hunter and having levels in something with "Jedi" in the class name does NOT mean you are a jedi nor is it actually required to be a jedi.  Like I said you just need to find the game mechanics you want and figure out how to fit them together.

MasterArkaine may hint at this but I'll just say it:  PrCs are not required for great characters.  Ok, I'll admit that taking a level in a PrC typically gets you a bigger class bonus to defense but beyond that the only benefit is often one more Force Point each level.  PrCs may get "abilities" instead of Bonus Feats but feats can be as powerful even if they aren't as specialized.  Base classes and PrCs all gain talents at the same rate (on odd levels) and while some trees aren't available except through PrCs individual talents do not, and should not, need to be stronger then those you can find in base classes; don't forget that many PrCs offer access to talent trees available to base classes.
 

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 3:32PM #8
Candlestick
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Thanks for the help everyone. It looks like the character will be starting off as a SCout before going onto Bounty Hunter / Gunslinger.

Having never played a Scout before I was surprised how useful their talents are and I will be looking to play them more often in the future.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 4:03PM #9
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Scout is one of my three favorite starting classes along with Noble and Soldier depending on what I'm going for.  As for just taking Scout before going into Bounty Hunter don't forget that you could easily do a little multiclassing if you wanted without changing your 'character' anymore then taking another level in Scout would.
 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 4:09PM #10
MasterArkaine
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Feb 22, 2013 -- 11:56AM, StevenO wrote:

Feb 22, 2013 -- 12:56AM, Candlestick wrote:

I was looking the SAGA system.

Was there ever any conversion of classes and PrC from RCR to Saga edition?


In all honesty I never say a need to convert classes or PrCs from the RCR to SAGA.  Maybe there were some concepts that could be used to create a talent tree but in all honesty SAGA doesn't need more classes and probably could get by fine with fewer of them if some talent trees were better distributed.

As Richterbelmont actually points out and I hinted at earlier in the thread "names do NOT equal concepts."  You don't need levels in Bounty Hunter to be a bounty hunter and having levels in something with "Jedi" in the class name does NOT mean you are a jedi nor is it actually required to be a jedi.  Like I said you just need to find the game mechanics you want and figure out how to fit them together.

MasterArkaine may hint at this but I'll just say it:  PrCs are not required for great characters.  Ok, I'll admit that taking a level in a PrC typically gets you a bigger class bonus to defense but beyond that the only benefit is often one more Force Point each level.  PrCs may get "abilities" instead of Bonus Feats but feats can be as powerful even if they aren't as specialized.  Base classes and PrCs all gain talents at the same rate (on odd levels) and while some trees aren't available except through PrCs individual talents do not, and should not, need to be stronger then those you can find in base classes; don't forget that many PrCs offer access to talent trees available to base classes.
 




SteveO is right on the money here. PcRs are not a needed thing to make your concept. I had friend in one older campaign that went 12 levels into Soldier before hitting up Elite Trooper because we were able to use talents from any of the current soursebooks upto that point (Galaxy at War had just came out). He was better equiped feat wise because his was a human and was rocking 6 bonus feats from Soldier. 12 feats at level 12 was amazing.

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