There is a new Star Wars pre-made Campaign on the internet. It's written by Master Starider and has ten episodes! It doesn't have a name yet, but I'm sure that it is coming.
If you want these documents, then you will have to do Master Starider a small favour. This poor guy has written a total of ten adventures that go from level 1 to level 20 on his own. Personally I'm amazed. He needs the communities help too: edit the work, provided maps (they don't need to be original), check stat-blocks and pull together artwork.
So if you are prepared to read and edit the Game-Master Campaign Guide, PM me or Master Starider and we will send you a copy. If you like the story and want to continue being involved, please contribute something to the document by editing it. The rest of the adventure will work in the same way. The first Episode will be e-mailed to you, once you have sent back the Guide with your corrections.
If your editing could follow the below rules (guide), please.
(1) Mark corrections in red.
(2) Whenever possible please write questions about the campaign guide in this thread, rather than e-mail me. This allows Master Starider to answer the questions directly and everyone involved will get the same information. Otherwise I'll be playing e-mail tag with 10 people.
(3) If you must ask questions privately, write your questions into the document and mark them green or blue. This will allow Master Starider to answer them more easily and all at once.
(4) If you find that sections need re-writing to make sense, please mark them in yellow.
(5) Please do not make the document available to the public at this time.
I will not be loading the adventures onto my mediafire account.
So let's see what you can do.
I have spoken with Master Starider and the campaign title should be getting discussed shortly. The project team is now at 8 people, I still have a few guides to send out.
If your editing, could you please follow the standard editing guide set out in the first post, please.
I've updated the first thread for people involved in the project team.
Any general questions that the project team has can be put in this thread, you don't need to e-mail me. Please do not make the document available to the public at this time. I will ask for people to play test when the campaign guide is in final draft.
Thank you very much guys!
The last two adventures have been completed for a while, plus there is a GM's outline. The campaign does need a new name, as does the last adventue, which is currently self-titled. The campaign is set roughly one thousand years after the Battle of Yavin, when the whole 'Legacy' comic book series has run its course (the two eras have to be independent of each other, but are linked).
The general concept of the campaign is to stop another Order 66 situation (and the following Sith rule) from happening again.
I will send Prom the last two adventures tomorrow. I hope we can all make this work.
Ah yeah, I've seen this before. Someone has it on their mediafire account...can't remember who. One thing I'll say right off the bat; the Legacy comic series is 130 years ABY, not 1000 years I was SO confused when I read about Ben Skywalker being old (but alive) 1,000 years ABY
But yeah, looking forward to checking this out and giving some input! I liked what I read so far.
I'm a grammar Nazi, of sorts. I appreciate conversational style, but HATE comma splices and mispelled words. So I'm all over the grammar. I'll have a better idea of how to phrase things when I've read the adventures themselves, but I'll see what I can do on the outline. I'll need to wait til tomorrow, but yeah I'll have something on it soon.
Very interested in helping to complete this, as is my wife.
Reading through the campaign guide, I had quite a few what-the-F moments. For the moment, I assume that it will all make sense once we get the whole campaign to read through. But several instances in the campaign summary had me scratching my head.
The project team for the GM Campaign outline is currently the following people.
(11) Master Starider
What race is 'the shape changer' in The Assassin Within? Ill go out on a limb and assume Clawdite? if it is would it be better to change the wording to include the species name?
In "Bounty before Honour" there is reference to a Mando, would this perhaps be a slang term for 'Mandalorian'? Or is the Mando the name of Renjo's ship?
I kept my comments deliberately vague because I wasn't certain to what extent we should be discussing the work in the clear. I apologise if any of my comments has given offense.
I'm assuming the Duros mentioned at the end of Episode II's outline is the Black Sun Leiutenant?
I edited the first two episode outlines and sent it back to Prom. Let me know if this kind of editing is acceptable or wanted. It's mostly just grammatical/syntactical stuff, with a little bit of moving words around so they make better sense with each other.
Triple post! Umm, at the end of the outline for Episode IV (The Assassin Within) when you say a planet "not so far away from Coruscant," do you actually mean that? Given that 1) it's in the Unknown Regions and 2) it's apparently part of the Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium, that would generally describe a planet much deeper into the UR and also in the galaxy's "Southwest" quadrant, with Coruscant being a ways "North" of the galactic "Center." Just wondering.
Okay, I`ve made a few changes, mostly grammar, but I`ve also changed somethings in order to help flow of reading. I`ve also changed the Confederacy`s name to the "Reborn Confederacy of Independent Systems", if that`s okay with you guys, in order to prevent GM/player confusion over the name, and instead of "not so far away from Coruscant", I`ve changed it to "not far away from Lwheek", in order to make the sentence logical. If you guys are alright with it, I`ll work on Darth Cypher and the Conderate leaders` stat blocks. Great campaign, by the way! ^__^
Wow! Im sorry for not beleiving in you all - lets just say I've had my faith (in people and God) sorely tested on a few different levels. Please excuse and forgive my outburst.
Right team, down to buisiness. The assassin mentioned in ep IV is a cawdite, and the mando is a Mandolorian, decendant of the legendary and fearsome Fetts. In case you are all wondering, yes it does seem a similar to SW Eps I-III. I deliberately wrote in some familiar aspects, to keep fans happy - its a case of 'something old, something new'. I also wanted to touch on the aspect of' history destined to repeat itself'. I expand on this during the final episode, where a very familiar and old enemy reveals itself to helping the new one, and plans to stop the cycle of Jedi/Sith waning and waxing through the ages, as it always has done so.
Concerning the location of the planet (called Kassi'Toxa, in the aliens native language), the research I did involved a map of the GFFA. The Unknown Reigons is a wedge, which cuts straight through to the centre (near Coruscant) of the galaxy. I simply placed the planet on the other side of the galactic black hole in the centre (every galaxy has one) where I presume the Unknown Reigons starts closest to the centre. Please let me know if I got this wrong. Besides, I suppose you could put it anywhere in the UR, as long as it is within/near boarders of Srii-Ruuk (sp?) empire.
Thanks to everyone again, and lets keep moving forward.
May the Force be with You All
I suggest simply removing the mention of how close the planet is to Coruscant to prevent muddying the waters. It may confuse new GMs if they are not all that familiar with the Star Wars lore and it isn't all that crucial for the GM to know how close to Coruscant the planet is, is it?
I have finished my document as has my wife and we will be emailing it back to whence it came!
I agree wholeheartedly with DarthSet.
It really feels like Star Wars, and that's something that's hard to pull off in the Legacy Era IMO.
Ok, Darthset, moto_jin and FeeorinsRule have sent back their edited outlines. When I get the whole teams documents back I'll start compiling it. I now have the job of inserting maps into the first episode, so I'm real busy. I'm hoping I'll have it ready for people before the end of the month, faster is unlikely.
I have another request, Master Starider we need a campaign name. I realize that Eve of Destruction was what you wanted to call it, but there's a campaign of the same name. I actually know that the other campaign is not dead, just being slowly contructed by one guy. I sent you some suggestions for the campaign name, but I have one more.
'Legacy of the Stariders'
I`m curious about the fact that if this campaign is set 1,000 ABY, would it even be in the Legacy Era, or a brand new one all together? I`m thinking it`s a little bit the latter, as there would be a massive change in ships, relations, and traditions. Maybe something like the "Genesis Era", or something like that. Also, I have a great idea for the final battle that I`d be willing to PM either Prom or Master Starider to see if they like. I`ve also made stats for Darth Cypher.
I'm sure it's not 1,000 ABY. With all the references in the Outline and also the Campaign Guide (I've read it), I'd estimate the timeline to be around 100-110 ABY, and "1000" is just a numerical error.
Also, I have a question: the Imperial Knights. Shouldn't they be present as an instituation at this time? Or at least being founded? I don't see any mention of them in the Outline and I haven't read the adventures through yet.
Wow, more work to do. This may take a bit of explaining, so stick with me if you can.
First things first. Prom, would you please be so kind to provide the list of names you came up with before. We need a name, not only for the campaing, but the last ep, which is self titled. The name has to be poiniant and relevant. I chose EoD cause this is the eve of the jedi's permanent destruction. Surely we can find a better fit? Prom, the names please. More than a few were awesome. : )
We may also need a name for the new era (something smoother than the New Imperial Order Era). This is not the Legacy era, though there are links. It is held 1,000 years after Yavin (not 100). This is a completely different era. The Legacy era has closed with the beginning of this chapter. Forever. We need a sexy new name for this new era. A new era we can all call our own, instead of being tied to an established cannon era.
Now, to some nitty gritty. Some of it has been touched in npc explanations in the guide, but not all. Lets start from the beginning...
The legacy era has come to a close. The new sith empire has been defeated, the Empire saved, with Cade in the centre of this galactic storm and rescue. (note the legacy comics are still ongoing, and Im just guessing an end to suit the build up to the new era.) Cade finally embraced his Jedi heratage, and begins to build the Jedi anew....
Centuries pass, and the Jedi and its council are reformed. The Fell liniage has been adopted and shaped to be the protectors of the galaxy, primed to handle any threat, from within (such as the Clone Wars) and without (like the Yuusang Voong sp? or a similar force) Never again will the galaxy be unprepared. Thus, the Fell linage shifted from ruler to protector. Educational pathways and training reigiems were changed and reinvented for the Fells, thier liniage, and thier new purpose in the galaxy. Soon, the galaxy had a united force (part police, part army, all peace keeper.) to protect it. Along with the Jedi, and a new standing army consiting of latest tech droids, ships, and even a newly constructed superweapon, coaxed the galaxy to new levels of peace and prosperity. Never has this power been abused or corrupted by the Fells during this time. However, there was a price (appart from eternal servitude) the Fells had to pay...
No longer were the providence of Force users strictly under Imperial rule. The Imperial Knights were disbanded, and the jedi were once agian alowed to seek out and train force sensitive children to allow the Jedi teachings and wisdom to grow throughout the galaxy once more. However, one of the ealriest Imperial Protectors struck a deal with the jedi, when the current stasis quo was formed, that the Jedi could have any force user except those of the Fell family. Any Fell progony must be kept within the family, to learn the path of Galaxcic Imperial Protector, so the galaxy would always have a strong, wise, and kind leader to defend it when times were at its worst...However, none saw the dangers of a Force user without Jedi teachings and principles, yet the Fell family was not concerned, until the first Fell force user in recent history was born...thus begins Princess Tiffa's part in this epic tale.
Also, during this era, the use of droids has evolved to a whole new level. Basically the galaxy is 'droid mad' once again. Technology has improved a little, but not enough to render the game status quo useless. Just a few tweaks here and there.
And it goes without saying, deep within the core of this benevolence and peace, ferments a diabolical plot that will see the two main forces in the universe come to heads once more...
Basically from there, the campaign begins. I'm sure this will raise more questions than answers, and to be honest, I may not have them all. I suppose that is where you all come in.
Please, ask me whatever you wish, and I'll help as best I can.
Next time I might preempt a question that gave rise to a 'WTF' moment: 'Why so many credits?'
See you all on the morrow.
Like I said, I suggest this era is called the "Genesis Era". Also, for variety, I`d suggest that during battles against this new Confederacy that there is a mixture of the Confederate members` technology. For example, perhaps most of the "Reborn" Confederacy`s pilots are Ssi-ruuvi droids powered via the entechment process by using slaves captured by the Vagaari, all the while piloting Chiss Clawcraft starfighters. And for other cases, heroes could face off against hordes of slaves armed with Chiss charric guns forced to fight for the Reborn Confederacy at gunpoint by the Vagaari. Just an idea I thought I`d throw out there. I`d be willing to make generic Reborn Confederate troops, if you guys want. And Master Starider, I`d be more than happy to help expand on this era. Is there a reason why the Chiss Ascendancy, Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium, and Vagaari Empire formed a Confederacy?
Ok. So Ben Skywalker is a descendant of Cade's? And he is named after the original Ben Skywalker, Luke's son?
The Dark Crusade
Legacy of War
Legacy of Destruction
Dawn of Destruction
Dawn of Annihilation
Dawn of Elimination
Dawn of Extermination
Downfall of a Legacy
Twilight of Destruction
Legacy of Destruction
Brink of Destruction
Brink of Annihilation
I`ll throw in a few in as well:
Harbinger of Destruction
Purgatory of the Inferno
Dawn of the Inferno
Harbinger of the Inferno
Purge of the Inferno
I am feeling since this is a start of a new era, I like the word Dawn.... signifies starting, but there are trials and tribulations.... so lets try...
Dawn of Destiny
Dawn of Endless Possibilities
Dawn of Fate
Awesome! I agree with the idea this is a new beginning, so likely 'Dawn of XXX'. Probably 'destruction'. Cool. 'Something old, something new...'
Let's save 'Eclipse of...' and 'Twilight of...' for a little later (Prom, re that email I recently sent you...). 'Dawn of Destruction'. Other ideas?
As to the confederate forces playing with each others toys...they simply don't trust each other enough. Sure, Vagarri spies steal snippets of new tech here and there (results in ep 9), and slaves are freely traded, for entrenchment and sheild blisters, but make poor soldiers. Remember, this is the Droid Wars - most of the combatants are droids or vehicles. The uniting force is of course the Sith (ep 6, players get an inside peek of the covenant) - when is it not? (most of the time in the GFFA, almost always...)
Ben's name...I wanted to use something familiar and poiniant, a popular name instaintly recognised as SW...one linked to the Skywalkers lineage. I'm sure Lukes force ghost (even Cole's FG, or Obi-Wan's) contributed to the name in some way. I'm sure there is a novel waiting to be writen about the whole experience, something I'm not trained for or willing to do...surfice it to say that the current gen Ben embodies what his Jedi ancestors have represented throught the SW ages...
Now the credits. Basically, when I playtested Dawn of Defiance, there was not enough cash to do what I expected most players would want to do - get a cool ship, equipment, etc, and upgrade the hell out of it.
For most of the campaign (eps 1-5), the heroes extra cash is forced to be spent to further thier goals - bribes, equp, healing, etc. When they reach ep 6+, they get thier first million or so. Cool. Get a ship, upgrade it, blah blah. However, after ep 7 (and the Droid War) the heroes get alot more. At the end of the campaign, they have about 100 million creds. 95%+ of this is obtained in the last three eps, where the heroes have very little time to spend any of it, and the scope of the campaing cannot be affected by any amount of credits at this time. When the campaign is complete (prom and others whove read ep 10) the heroes can spend thier loot on, perhaps, a new base somewhere in the galaxy (once again, team, refer to the heroes final reward...). This links in with thier other rewards...hopefully, alot of players will like this...
Ok, thats it for now...let's see what tommorow brings...
May the Force be With You...
Lovin' the credits Although in Dawn of Defiance, you could arguably get a ship in 3 ways, or any combination thereof - 1) Sell Darga's ship, 2) have a Noble with Wealth, or 3) Finance it per the rules in the S&V.
That aside, I really like the name Dawn of Destruction, but might it be confusing for people who have been playing the "DoD" campaign (Dawn of Defiance) for so long already? That's the only reason I hesitated to put my vote forward...but I really can't think of a better title. Dawn of Destruction has a nice ring to it.
I'm really drawn to Dark Eclipse. I agree avoiding confusion with Dawn of Defiance and Eve of Destruction is vital.
Campaign names I can think of, after a bit more thought.
Rise of the Droids
The Droid Wars
Personally I love Dark Eclipse, also. It's scary, mysterious, dramatic and it has a sense of evil lurking just before the storm. Confusion with Dawn of Defiance is not a great reason to change a campaign name, but it's a logical step. It's your call Master Starider.
I agree...with you all actually. Dawn of Destruction (especially 'DoD') could get confusing...I like the darkness theme...I would like to save the word 'Eclipse', perhaps for the next proj (followed by Twighlight...Dawn, Eclipse, Twighlight/or Dusk...suggestive of a cycle...a cycle within a cycle...themes popular to SW...and so forth. Prom, re email) : )
Lets see...how about 'Dawn of Shadows'...it uses dawn, suggests a new beggining, implys the gathering and rise of darkness...what say you all?
Mentioning the Droid Wars should be timed correctly - it doesn't happen (in earnest) until between ep 7 and 8.
Also, you do get a ship (basically for free), with it being loaned to you for the first three eps (the first 'movie'), and the heroes claim it after that...they can do whatever they like, from selling it to installing upgrades...its up to the players.
Also, the campaign guide still needs lots of content...fluff, crunch, whatever you can think of to include in this brand new era. I don't care about minor political stuff, as long as it doesn't interfere with the plot. Feats, talents, force powers, anything and everything for this era. I've done most of the absoluteley nessecary stuff to make the campaign work, but there is still plenty of room for more...
Talk again tommorow, and great work team!
Okay that answers my questions about that....
I was wondering when the "Droid Wars" was happening. Is there any type of conflict in the recent background of history at the beginning of the opening crawl, or is the opening crawl 100% accurate insofar that only Piracy, Crimelords and such have been active, no other antagonistic force had attempted, no issues threatening the empire? just confirming there was infact 800(ish) years of peace and prosperity.
Also is the Confederacy known about publicly or just in hushed political secret circles? is there in essence a "Cold War" in effect? i.e. The Galactic Empire knows of the Confederacies existance but hasnt taken it seriously yet and are just in info gathering mode?
If it is okay with Master Starider, I`ll help with the background of this Reborn Confederacy.
Here`s my idea and possible backstory of the Confederacy:
Since the new Empire has risen and gained both political and military power, many factions in Wild Space and the Unknown Regions grew uncomfortable about the Empire`s galaxy spanning might. Among these were the politicians of the Chiss Ascendancy. Fearing an Imperial attack, a very unlikely action in anyone`s eyes but the nervous Chiss, Chiss bureaucrats proposed an alliance with various independent factions as a way to by-pass the Chiss`s "not-first strike" policy, so that if the Empire invaded them, the Chiss`s allies would have to help, but if the Chiss`s allies got attacked first, the CEDF would have time to fully mobilize. The factions to accepted this Confederacy were the Vagaari Empire, and the Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium. The Vagaari Empire`s and the Ssi--Ruuvi Imperium`s reasons for joining were less than noble. The Vagaari Empire saw it as a way to dissuade angry worlds after one of the Vagaari`s slaving raids, while the Ssi-Ruuvi saw it as a way to gain further subjects for entechment if war ever came around. The upper levels of this Chiss didn`t care or know about these reasons for joining, and soon enough, a loose alliance was made. Than Darth Schism came along. Whispering and feeding the ambitions of the leaders of the Vagaari Empire, the Chiss Ascendancy, and the Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium, Darth Schism was able to propose that if they attacked the Empire in a sudden and bold attack, the Reborn Confederacy could surprise the Empire so fast that the Imperial military wouldn`t have the time to mobilize, and thus the Confederacy could secure their positions of power in the Unknow Regions.
And thus the events of this campaign begin. And I`ll propose "Rising Inferno" as the campaign name.
EDIT: And DarthSet, I was thinking along the lines of what you said. I`m guessing Darth Schism did a little tampering with the Chiss Ascendancy`s leaders` emotions via the Force.
I like that idea. But are the Chiss really that paranoid as to start a Confederacy now on their own as opposed to any other time in history. Perhaps Darth Cypher was "fueling" the paranoia from further back than we or even the Chiss know... or it could be 'another' Sith Lord within the Ascendancy driving them to be more aggressive. Perhaps this Sith may or may not be in league with Cypher. I am not too sure on the current rules for the sith. Whether its 'always 2 there is' or if it's a sith army it if it's like Darth Krayt again and the one true sith
Edit: was on mobile phone at work, didnt have access to all the fancy forum options. all I can do there is post. Fixed now
Sorry for not contributing, I've been busy with other stuff, but I've read over it, and I think it's a neat idea. I'll have more to contribute after this week, but I'm gonna be very busy until Saturday.
I have recieved Darth_Scorpions and awaypturwpn's edit work.
Dawn of Shadows is alright, I still like Dark Eclipse more, but it's your baby Master Starider.
The Outline or guide doesn't actually need to be that much longer. What it does need is an overall paragraph on the campaign with the following,
(1) Explain when in the timeline or era the story takes place.
(2) The current state of the galaxy.
(3) What the main goal of the players will be in the story.
(4) What level PC's start and finish the campaign.
Whatinthewampa, do not worry, I'm still busy doing maps for episode one.
It is a time of great prosperity and peace in the galaxy. 1000 years after the Battle of Yavin, the Empire has been restored to its former glory, with the Fels as the leaders and protectors of the galaxy. The Jedi too, have slowly rebuilt with the help of Grand Master Cade Skywalker centuries ago, and are again the galaxy`s guardians of peace. However, not all is what it seems at the surface. The Sith are quietly hiding in the shadows, waiting for the moment to strike. This is the era your heroes will be placed in, a time of hope, struggle, and defeat. This campaign is a tool for a GM to use, which takes heroes from level 1 to 20 roughly 1000 years after the Battle of Yavin. In it, the heroes will work for a headstrong princesss, fight in the forefront of a galaxy spanning war, and attempt to stop a great darkness, or else the galaxy`s future is very shadowy and grim indeed.........
Will this work, Prom, for an overall paragraph on the campaign?
Hey guys, a new day, and more answers follow more questions...
Just about to leave, and this pops up...I'll give it a quick look...
Well, once the CG is complete, hopefully it will have some of the background info players can look at. However, the new conf does'nt exist untill ep 6. ep 4 and 5 hint at something bigger, but there is no way anyone in the Empire finds out whats going on prior to the heroes/tiffa's efforts (its what makes them so special and valued). ep 6 represents the heroes extraordinary efforts to find out about the forming new confeds. That is the secret intel privy to the characters - they are the very first imperials to find out about the dark schism, and the impending time of war...
Hope this helps,
Over and Out!
I'm loving your work, MasterStarider (when Threat Detected ends its DoD run maybe we'll do a DoS run). I'm busy with nanowrimo which hasn't stopped me from doing an editing draft on Ep1. After nano, if you need excited help, count me in.
Thanks Garrett. This project will soreley need experienced and imaginative fans like yourself for it to be absolutely complete (by the way, I haven't playtested it yet, though I did for DoD, by myself. This still needs lots of playtesting for extra tweaking for battles, if required). There is still much to do with the campaign guide, and a potential follow up proj (with its own guide) may soon follow. Got an idea or two, but needs lots of thought and massaging into just the right shape, though still big gaps. I'm still thinking the whole thing through, but it should be worth it (hopefully)...
Thanks for your help guys,
May the Force be with you.
I have about half the teams edit work, and just have to wait for the rest to come back. I figure by the end of the month, I'll be doing a final draft. I injuried myself at work so will try and complete the maps for episode one.
Sith: Darth Krayt is permanently killed and the One Sith unite under the rule of Darth Nihl and go underground to rip the galaxy apart from the shadows.
Galactic Government: The reformation of the Galactic Alliance Triumvirate with Admiral Gar Stazi, Empress Marasiah Fel and Jedi Master K'Kruhk as the triumvirs.
Jedi: Not really elaborated upon; but it is hinted that Cade Skywalker, though embracing peace and the Light-side of the Force, abandoned the Jedi Order to live with Deliah and Jariah in a remote area of the galaxy.
It doesn't change any of the backstory to your campaign, but you might be able to incorporate some of the new information into it if you want to (given the 1'000 year plus difference in the timeline, it would be very generic by its very nature anyway)...
Hope it was'nt too serious, prom - get well soon!
One of the edits made a good suggesion for a non-confusing yet tantalisingly familar name. I think it was just simply the 'New Confederates'. I'll have a look...but yes, it probably has to be changed.
As to the Lecacy cannon... : ( Thats ok, but I figured the Skywalker would be the one to bring back the jedi...they are the galaxies greatest heroes...oh well. I also figured DHC would have milked Legacy for a lot longer...by the way, appart from the Clone Wars, what's Lucas up to next for the GFFA? any rumours?
OK. I figured a top sith apprentice assassin eventually found Darth Sidious's holocron (amoungst Krayats other goodies) and was swayed by his arguments for the Rule of Two. Thus, her mission was to exterminate the other remaining 'One Rule' sith, and find a new apprentice. I suppose that covers the sith and the rule of One seeing its unique place in the Legacy era only.
The Galactic Alliance Triumvirate could be the ones responsible for the Fel's repourpousing in th GFFA (maybe after some appifiny and a related small saga). Finally united, the alliance concieves the idea of the New Empire, the droid army, and the super weapon Sword of Justice. Eventually the alliance is self-segregated, but still an informal presence, as the Fel's, the Jedi, and the Admiral (now a great/maybe new leader in New Empire, with his own acadamy) develop thier seperate (but allied) foundations. This sort of stuff will more than likely have to go into the campaign guide. Also, I imagine a new galactic council which holds its regular meetings via mass holocon useage (tech is a bit better now).
Maybe the Allience is the structure which the New Empire and the Jedi Council operate through now? I'll have a tinker...
How does this sound? I don't want it overly complicated or anything that interferes with the plot. Any other developments or threats are eventually dealt with, with the galaxy developing as planned. I suppose a novel or two with a (non-Force) antagonist could be written, with the end restoring the status quo of a rebuilding galaxy...however, these are only minor tales to the lead up of the Genesis Era.
Can anyone see why this would not work?
Thanks for your help team,
If I`m not mistaken, I believe you`re talking about the Reborn Confederacy. I added that to avoid confusion with the Clone Wars Confederacy.
The outline is becoming rather hard for me to follow, and I'm a little unsure I can pull everyones work together without messing things up. Master Starider do you mind if I send you all the edit's from the team to check over and you do the final draft? I can then send it to a pro to do a final check.
If that's not going to work, then I might have to ask someone to be lead editor on the outline. If that's alright?
I need to focus on getting the adventures ready for editing and testing.
Reborn Confederacy (or Confederacy Reborn? which sounds better?) will do for now. Good work FR. May have to put a little bit on the end, 'Reborn Confederacy of...' ?
Prom. Send me all of the edits, and I'll pick. I may have to mush multiple efforts together. I will do my best to stay faithful to the cause. If you're still not happy, we can use your 'ace' if you wish. I am glad to have a safe pair of hands to work with, prom...without your efforts, this project would not, could not work...thanks
Otherwise, I will conceed that the outline may have to be rewritten completley. However, anyone who does has to read the entire campagin and know it enough to get the job done to an acceptable level, at best back to front. No exceptions. They have to know the work. I can also help out here.
Cool. Crawling becomes walking, and soon we shall all run faster than the wind.
Matty out (for now)
I like Confederacy Reborn. It flows off the tongue.
As you might have guessed, I think Reborn Confederacy sounds better, but if the majority of you like Confederacy Reborn better, I have no qualms. As for its full name, I was guessing something like "Reborn Confederacy of Affiliated Systems" or "Reborn Confederacy of Independent Systems".
Thanks for your help prom
Regarding the legacy canon issue, sure Cade could havewalked away what's stopping his son or his son's son etc. From having any contact with Lukes ghost? Unless Cade puts a moratorium on his family and each son is a loyal and not curious about the force at all for nearly 800 years or so. So it stands to reason one curious Skywalker there in that expansive time got his hands on a holo cron or started having words with Luke.
I also just wanted to let you guys know that my wife and I appreciate being involved and would like to continue being involved if you'll have us. She really wants to playtest this for our local group that just got back together.
I finally got a chance to print it out and go over it. I'm going to admit I don't have Word on my computer so the doc file was a little hard to follow but I did manage to get a printout of the four pages. I'll start by pointing out a few typoes/possible grammatical errors. All of these are on the first real page of text:
1. In the last sentence under APP I believe it should be "heart felt" instead of "heartfelt" and it should be "starship" instead of "Star-ship" a little after that. PS. Earlier in that paragraph mountainside should probably be mountain side (two words) as well.
2. About six lines up from the bottom of the first colomn shouldn't it be "he realized" instead of "he realised?"
2.5. Column2, paragraph4. "If the heroes are slow the boarders, Black Sun assassins, attack them." I'd cut either "the boarder" or "Black Sun assassins" from the line as they describe the same group but I believe that comma I added should be in there otherwise.
3. Under TAW in the second to last sentence of the first paragraph it should read "her leads have hit a dead ends." Leads are plural so the need multiple ends.
4. In the last sentence (which is already highlighted) it should probably say "When defeated the champion tells the PCs what he knows about the assassin."
That's what I have for now although I'm realizing there are a lot of places things could cleaned up, simplified, or even cut without changing any meanings.
When it comes to the story I wonder if there will be too many "gotcha" moments. Although multiple routes to certain actions happening can be written I sometimes worry that too many thing must happen.
Although they may come somewhere else I believe the campaign guideline should also mention the "rules" for PC creation and say what books will be required. I'll assume all the books are on the table, which is one benefit of working with a "complete" game system, but for simplicity it is often helpful to keep sources confined to few books. I also mention PC creation rules because I would assume PB 28 for stats, fixed hit points, and effective but not extremely optimized or min/maxed character.
Something that just popped into my mind. Is the outline and adventure going to be in International English or U.S?
I'm going to mention the project on "Threat Detected"'s next episode. Is there anything Prom or Masterstarider would like me to say about it? Hopefully, some motivated editors and artists will heed the call to arms.
Cool. Thanks for the plug, Garrett. : )
Not sure on what to say. Something about this being the next era of SW I suppose, after Legacy, 1000 yrs after Yavin. Mention its a full SWSE campaing, from 1st-20th lv, ala DoD, with its own support material. Do a little foreshadowing if you like, but go light on the spoilers. Whet thier appetite a little. Also mention its currently being converted from alpha to beta, and will be ready for play testing semi-soon. Make sure you use the names 'Dawn of Shadows', and 'Genesis Era'. Put the call out to artists if you think it can help.
That's all I can think of now.
Thanks once again, Garrett - that's publicity we just can't buy - well done!
And you were ready to throw it all in, Matty. What a mistake that would have been.
Ok, Master Starider is busy inserting maps into the first episode, so you have me for now. Unless you are still doing work on the outline or need to ask more questions about the outline, there's not much let to say about this part of the task. Master Starider will finish compiling the campaign outline when he gets a chance.
StevenO, I've still got to send you a few outline formats. I'll get that done tomorrow.
Please start using the 'Episode 1: A Princess's Pride' thread. This is the next stage of this project.
There are still a few loose threads that need to be tied. Firstly, the project needs a logo. Sometype of dark, shadowy sunrise with the campaign name on it. This will go in the CG and each adventure.
Lastly, there still needs to be some stuff done for this CG. I dont mind doing the fluff (slowly, but hopefully finished by the end of this project), but I dont mind getting help with minor GFFA faction stuff (like Corellians, Banking Clan, blah).
I also need more crunch for the CG. Lots of crunch. Mostly Force related stuff, new talents, feats, showcasing any new and apt prestige classes, etc. Also, a number of Jedi Council members neet to be statted out. I'll create a new thread later for this slice of the project.
Prom, I'll also have a paragraph summary, incl the Legacy/Genesis lead up, soon.
Thanks for your help
Hey guys, I know it's kind of late in the game to suggest names for the campaign, but I just had a thought - going on the whole "dark, shadowy sunrise," and especially the image of a Jedi and Sith crossing sabers imposed over that...why not make it a sunset? Why not, instead of "dawn," make it "dusk" or "sun set" or "setting sun" or something of that nature?
I only mention this because Dawn infers a beginning, but perhaps what we're looking for is more of an ending? This is supposed to be the final destruction of the Jedi, right?
I don't have any concrete ideas to throw out there, and am loathe to suggest "Twilight," but still the idea stands...
I suggest we make it a sun, with a shadowy claw clasping it, with two lightsabers crossed in the background.
Ahhh awaypturwpn...I have plans for another 2 projects involving the Genesis Era (I aluded to this in a former post). This project, Dawn of Shadows, suggests a begining...the next (it has Eclipse in its name), follows a specicfic (yet mysterious) number of theme/s...and the last ties up loose ends, and answers some of the big questions about the Force and life (with more questions). This one will conain the word 'Dusk'. It all impys a cycle...a cycle within a cycle...a cycle within a cycle within a cycle...and so on. Ive got a skeleton (with plenty of juicy detials) for both and I am already working on the alfa for Project 2.
Also, we can presume the heroes succeeded in stopping the final destruction of the Jedi (ideally). This should (hopefully) become canon, setting the stage for the next chapter in the Genesis Saga.
As for the logo, all those ideas are cool, but try to make it simple - too much stuff is a bit cluttery. I will most likely accept the first logo someone makes up (unless it is totally unacceptable).
Matty over and out!
Good work prom. I suppose you should keep in mind another two logos will potentially needed as well - an eclipse, and a dusk (pretty much the same as a dawn i suppose). Giving them a common visual theme (genesis saga symbol? disregard if too hard) could be cool too. Just thinking ahead a little - not looking for answers now, just something to consider...
By the way, after this massive 3 part project is complete (thus completing the Genesis Saga cycle, and taking at least another 2 years to complete both alphas) I will more than likely not be working on any more of my own star wars stuff, apart from a cheeky quick adventure or two. This way, I have made my small mark on the SW galaxy, then I will step aside for another era to follow (don't worry, the status quo will not change at the end of this mass project...much). This can fall squarely into whomever hands the Force wills. I am quite sure it will not be mine...however, I will return the favour and help anyone who wants to do another project/era once I am finally finished my main part here. I will probably just throw out ideas until whomever is running new era/project finds something that fits (hopefully perfectly).
Can't wait to see what you come up with prom. Thank you very much. : )
There seems to be a little confusion regarding the Campaign Outline team process and what the project team was doing and would get for their effort. I was expecting something like this as the process,
(1) I send the Campaign outline to people in the project team.
(2) The team members ask questions on this thread about the outline.
(3) Each team member edits the outline and sends it back to me.
(4) The different edit jobs are compiled into one master copy.
(5) I get a pro to edit the outline.
(6) Create a PDF of Campaign Outline.
(7) I send everyone in the project team a PDF copy of the final draft.
Everyone that hands in a edited copy gets credit on the document and the new final document. I want the outline finshed by the end of the month, so edit work needs to get to me before December 2011.
I hope that's clear.
Anyone else handing in edit work has only a few days left. Thanks.
The Dawn of Shadows Campaign Outline has had it's last edits submitted. I'm not taking anymore edit drafts. Thank you to everyone who was involved. I just need to send things to a few people and hopefully the final draft will be ready before Christmas.
I'm just sorting out the first paragraph with Matty. I have a Senior editor for the outline, so this should be wrapped up soon.
Hey guys, are we editing according to American English or British English standards? I can do either, but there's some discrepencies in the adventure text. I'd been making the changes according to British rules but then the writing slowly starting shifting to American-style. It's kinda mixed right now. But yeah either/or, just let me know.
Also Matty, do you prefer "Cybergauntlet" or "Cyber-gauntlet?"
Hello A-man, if there is no 'international' english, then use American I suppose. The majority of gamers that will see the work will undoubtedly be from the USA. I have no official english training, so what I do will probably be a bit of a mess.
With the gauntlet name, in the CS someone changed it from 'Cybergauntlet' to 'Cyber-Gauntlet'. Use the latter. I can picture Girza emphasising the hyphon for extra drama.
Hope this helps,
I am shutting down this project at Master Stariders request. Matty has already explained in another thread his reasons. I wish him all the best for the future.
Those people with copies of his work, please do not distribute them or infact do anything till I contact you by e-mail.
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