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3 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2010 - 8:08AM #1
Biggsy
Date Joined: Dec 14, 2008
Posts: 339
Hi everyone

I just started collecting SSB as i would like to try and work them into a project i'm working on. It's kind of a 'galactic conquest' campaign thing where you will fight for control of the galaxy one planet at a time, having to fight for orbital control before you can land your troops and battle for the planet with SWM miniatures.

My problem is, i think there's not enough ships to fill my needs. So i thought that you guys might have some good ideas as to where i can get some ships that's about the same scale as SSB's. I'm especially interested in any ships (all classes) that could be used for the fringe. Also, a republic carrier, v-19 torrent, and separatist landing craft is a high priority. But any ideas are welcome.

Also another question. I've experienced that people tend to thing the original rules suck. What are the best alternative rules according to you?
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2010 - 10:56AM #2
RogueKnight
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2007
Posts: 668
Check through the forums a few pages in.  Many people (Including myself) Have built additional ships or found models to use elsewhere..

Look for custom threads by:

Rogue Knight
Guardian_A

and many others.  (Can't remember more names off the top fo my head)

Also look for the Rogue Fleet thread for a list of ships with instructions on how to build them.  If you can't find the instructions, let me know.  I Have them, and the V-19 is one of the ones I made instructions for.

Not sure what ship you mean by "Republic Carrier"

And for the Sep Landing craft, there is a AMT ERTL snapfast model that works well.  I am not sure of their availability any more, but they are usually $5.00 or less.

I have four of them and the work great.

Also, if you go to starshipmodeler.com, one company called Odyssey Slipways has models that work well for the SSB scale, namely the Dreadnaughts, Assault Frigates, and MC80b, and the seppy Diamond Cruiser. 

Other CW era ships that are relatively easy to convert are:

Z-95 Headhunters, Hyena bombers, Toscan 8Q, Republic Cruiser (The one with a Venator front end and consular engines), Charger C70 (Consular with more guns), Corellian Corvettes (Repaint Tantive IV), Providence destroyers (Re-paint Invisible Hand), Starvipers (Not CW, but fringe... Use Micro Machines.  Still Class 3 size), and Interceptor IV Frigates from EaW (Convert Wild Karrde).  You can also chop up starfighters to make "uglies" pretty easily. 

I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.

Here's a list of my custom ships:  Some are not canon, or at least the names are not.


Light Side:

Emancipator
Errant Venture (GCW)
Errant Venture (NJO)
Independence
Integrity
Liberty
Mon Remonda
Startide
Dalryake-Class Battleship
Defiant
Peregrine
Reef Home
Sibwarra
Dreadnaught-Class Heavy Cruiser
Gladius-Class Light Cruiser
MC40a-Class Light Cruiser
MC75-Class Fast Cruiser
Victory I-Class Star Destroyer
Etherway
Far Orbit
FarStar
Flurry
Masanya
Ram's Head
Redemption
Starry Ice
Charger C70-Class Frigate
CR70-Class Corvette
CR90-Class Corvette
Nova-Class Cruiser
Quasar Fire-Class Bulk Cruiser
Andrasta
Bright Hope
Kempo
Lady Luck
GAT-12 Skipray Blastboat
GAT-24 Skipray Blastboat
Pirate Assault Shuttle
YT-1300-Class Freighter
YV-666-Class Freighter
Horton Salm's Y-Wing
Jaina Solo's StealthX
Mara Jade's Z-95
Pash Cracken's A-Wing
Wedge Antilles' X-Wing
BTL-B Y-Wing-Class Starfighter
B-Wing/A-Class Starfighter
Chir'Daki-Class Starfighter
Eta-2 'Actis'-Class Interceptor
Eta-2 'Actis' (Jedi)-Class Interceptor
E-Wing-Class Starfighter
Jedi StealthX-Class Starfighter
K-Wing-Class Bomber
Miy'Til-Class Starfighter
N-1-Class Bomber
N-1-Class Interceptor
Nssis-Class Clawcraft
Scatterfire 'Ugly'-Class Starfighter
TIE-Crux 'Ugly'-Class Starfighter
V-19 'Torrent'-Class Starfighter
XJ-Wing-Class Starfighter
X-TIE 'Ugly'-Class Starfighter
X-Wing (Patrol)-Class Starfighter
X-Wing Disrupter-Class Starfighter
Y-TIE 'Ugly'-Class Starfighter
Y-wing LongProbe-Class Starfighter
Z-95 'HeadHunter'-Class Starfighter



Dark Side:

Malevolence
Super-Class Star Destroyer
Acquisitor
Anakin Solo (Star Destroyer)
Binder
Chimaera
Gorgon
Patriot Fist
Fringe Venator Star Destroyer
Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer
Imperial II-Class Star Destroyer
Lucrehulk I -Class Battleship
Lucrehulk II -Class Battleship
Providence-Class Destroyer
Force of Commerce
Katana
Diamond-Class Cruiser
Dreadnaught-Class Cruiser
Escort-Class Carrier
Victory II-Class Star Destroyer
Vindicator-Class Cruiser
Backstab
Harmzuay
Night Caller
Warspite
Bayonet-Class Cruiser
C-9979-Class Landing Craft
Kaloth-Class Cruiser
Hound's Tooth
IG-2000
Stinger
Sun Crusher
Baktoid HMP Gunship
Firespray-31-Class Patrol Ship
GAT-12 Skipray Blastboat
Infiltrator-Class Courier
Sentinel-Class Landing Craft
Sheathipede-Class Shuttle
StarViper-Class Gunship
Baron Fel's TIE Interceptor
Erisi Dlarit's TIE Interceptor
Nas Ghent's TIE l/n
Qorl's TIE l/n
Turr Phennir's TIE Interceptor
Villian Dance's T.I.E. Fighter
Belbullab-22-Class Starfighter
Cloakshape-Class Bomber
Fly-Fighter-Class 'Ugly'
Ginivex-Class Starfighter
Hyena-Class Bomber
Spyder 'Ugly' Starfighter
T.I.E. Fighter
TIE Aggressor
TIE Clutch
TIE Cyclone
TIE Defender
TIE Heavy Bomber
TIE Hunter
TIE Interceptor Mk I
TIE Interceptor Mk II
TIE Oppressor
TIE Phantom
Toscan 8-Q-Class Starfighter
TYE-Wing 'Ugly'
My unofficial SSB Website

4-14-10

Uploaded the Base Pack of stat cards for Desperate Encounters.  These cards are for the 60 stock SSB Models, making them compatible with DE.

Coming Soon: DE: Reputations.  Reputations in battle are earned, not given...

An expansion pack containing stat cards for unique fighter squadrons, unique versions of stock SSB ships, and generic versions of unique SSB ships.
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2010 - 7:56PM #3
pukunui
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2006
Posts: 8,798
Be sure to check out Moomir Farooq's paper starship minis.
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2010 - 8:41PM #4
RogueKnight
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2007
Posts: 668

Jun 22, 2010 -- 7:56PM, pukunui wrote:

Be sure to check out Moomir Farooq's paper starship minis.






New I was forgetting someone! Moomir Farooq's page is fantastic.  Great models!

My unofficial SSB Website

4-14-10

Uploaded the Base Pack of stat cards for Desperate Encounters.  These cards are for the 60 stock SSB Models, making them compatible with DE.

Coming Soon: DE: Reputations.  Reputations in battle are earned, not given...

An expansion pack containing stat cards for unique fighter squadrons, unique versions of stock SSB ships, and generic versions of unique SSB ships.
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2010 - 1:52PM #5
Biggsy
Date Joined: Dec 14, 2008
Posts: 339
@ RogueKnight

Thanks for the help! It's much appreciated.

Jun 22, 2010 -- 10:56AM, RogueKnight wrote:

Also look for the Rogue Fleet thread for a list of ships with instructions on how to build them.  If you can't find the instructions, let me know.  I Have them, and the V-19 is one of the ones I made instructions for.


I found this but the links are dead unfortunately. Great thread though, hope you still have those instructions.

Jun 22, 2010 -- 10:56AM, RogueKnight wrote:

Not sure what ship you mean by "Republic Carrier"


This is the Republic carrier i had in mind: www.starwars.com/databank/starship/repub.... It looks kind of like a Consular with a large cargo hold mounted underneath, so it might be relatively easy to make one.

Jun 22, 2010 -- 10:56AM, RogueKnight wrote:

And for the Sep Landing craft, there is a AMT ERTL snapfast model that works well.  I am not sure of their availability any more, but they are usually $5.00 or less.


The AMT/ERTL separatist landing craft is nowhere to be found sadly, so still searching for an alternative.

Jun 22, 2010 -- 10:56AM, RogueKnight wrote:

Also, if you go to starshipmodeler.com, one company called Odyssey Slipways has models that work well for the SSB scale, namely the Dreadnaughts, Assault Frigates, and MC80b, and the seppy Diamond Cruiser.


Now these are fantastic, although they require some painting which i'm not that familiar with. Especially the assault frigates and Dreadnaught will do nicely i think.
Do you know if Carracks, Lancers, Marauders and LAAT/i would fit in as well?

Jun 22, 2010 -- 10:56AM, RogueKnight wrote:

Z-95 Headhunters, Hyena bombers, Toscan 8Q, Republic Cruiser (The one with a Venator front end and consular engines), Charger C70 (Consular with more guns), Corellian Corvettes (Repaint Tantive IV), Providence destroyers (Re-paint Invisible Hand), Starvipers (Not CW, but fringe... Use Micro Machines.  Still Class 3 size), and Interceptor IV Frigates from EaW (Convert Wild Karrde).  You can also chop up starfighters to make "uglies" pretty easily.


I thought of making some Z-95's already, basically a chopped X-wing right? The other conversions are also some i might give a try. Corellian corvettes and Interceptors seem to be the easier ones, so i'll probably start there.
The Micro Machines StarVipers are great, and i also found a Skipray model that i think would fit as well!




Some of you guys here are excellent customizers but my skill level is not that advanced so for now i'll stick with the easier ones and the already made models.

Speaking of customizing, that's one impressive list of customs you posted by the way! I'm looking forward to seeing the customs section of your site when it goes live at some point.

And to everyone: I'm still looking for fringe ships that could be used for SSB. Especially some capitals, cruisers etc. so the faction could be able to match up to the other fleets. Any suggestions are welcome, non-fringe ships as well.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2010 - 6:41PM #6
RogueKnight
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2007
Posts: 668
Yes, I do have the instructions.

Here's what I have:

Light Side:

Eta-5 (Plan to redo)
K-Wing
Miy'Til
V-19
Dreadnaught Alternative (Instead of buying models)
FarStar
N-1 Bomber
Y-Wing LongProbe
Lots of re-paints and Micro Machine ideas

Dark Side:
TIE Heavy Bomber
TIE Phantom
Preybird (Plan to redo)
Star Galleon
Toscan 8Q
TIe Avenger (Plan to redo)

That republic carrier is a troop transport, quite small.. but no reason you can't create your own ship based on that! I've done similar modifications..

The Carracks, Lancers, and LAAT are, sadly, WAY too small.  the carracks and lancers are 3-4 cm...  you could use them, but it just wouldn't look right. 

As to painting, it takes practice, but it's not too difficult.  And skills will improve over time.  My modeling and painting skills were bad when I first started, but I've gotten quite a bit better.  Nobody starts out mastering a skill.  You have to practice :-).  If you're insterested, I highly recommend it.  I use Gamers Workshop paints, but there are many other brands out there.

I forgot about the skipray... That model works just fine :-)  The Z-95's are basically single, fixed wing X-Wings.  Use cardboard or plasticard (polystyrene) to make wings, etc.  You can get the polystyrene online at hobbyclinic.com or through hobby shops that carry railroad modelling supplies.

Start out simple with the customs, and as your skill improves, get more complex.  You can do it.  :-)  Just requires patience.

I have started on my customs site.  I've got a lot of projects going right now, but hopefully in a few weeks I'll have a decent update to my site.

About the only fringe ship I have made was converting the wild karrde to an Interceptor IV frigate...  You can get freighters and such in the form of micro machines...

Feel free to message me if you ever have any questions :-)


My unofficial SSB Website

4-14-10

Uploaded the Base Pack of stat cards for Desperate Encounters.  These cards are for the 60 stock SSB Models, making them compatible with DE.

Coming Soon: DE: Reputations.  Reputations in battle are earned, not given...

An expansion pack containing stat cards for unique fighter squadrons, unique versions of stock SSB ships, and generic versions of unique SSB ships.
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 10, 2010 - 8:42AM #7
Biggsy
Date Joined: Dec 14, 2008
Posts: 339
Well i went on eBay to search for Micro Machines figures. I ordered some and got them in the mail the other day and must say, ther're a nice find! I got some Z-95s (a bit too large but they'll do), some Skiprays and a some StarVipers. They all look good next to the original models, although their paintjobs aren't nearly as good. I'll try to improve those at a later point. Also got a Flurry to work as a Quasar Fire carrier. And they were easy to put on bases thanks to the holes for their original bases. So i said goodbye to a bunch of Geonosian Starfighters and a Sith Infiltrator, and hello to my new additions Laughing

By the way i found a CR-20 carrier from Odyssey Slipways here (close to the bottom of the page):
www.starfleet-models.com/Models/Company/...
Sadly, they don't ship out of the country. So i'm actually not able to get any!! If someone would be able to help me out by ordering a pack and sending it overseas, i would really appreciate it! Anyways, i hope the link is helpful.

EDIT: @RogueKnight, could you please post the instructions you mentioned earlier for the V-19 Torrent and the other ships? The links in the original thread were dead last i checked.
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 10, 2010 - 12:12PM #8
Biggsy
Date Joined: Dec 14, 2008
Posts: 339

I was just looking around when i stumbled upon this model of the Star Forge, and thought i would post it if anyone would be interested. It's kind of pricy and the seller is based in Spain, but anyways here goes:
www.transilvaniamodels.com/catalogo/star...

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 10, 2010 - 7:23PM #9
RogueKnight
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2007
Posts: 668
for that CR-20, it is sold on multiple sites.  Check www.starshipmodeler.com
My unofficial SSB Website

4-14-10

Uploaded the Base Pack of stat cards for Desperate Encounters.  These cards are for the 60 stock SSB Models, making them compatible with DE.

Coming Soon: DE: Reputations.  Reputations in battle are earned, not given...

An expansion pack containing stat cards for unique fighter squadrons, unique versions of stock SSB ships, and generic versions of unique SSB ships.
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2010 - 2:27AM #10
Biggsy
Date Joined: Dec 14, 2008
Posts: 339

Jul 10, 2010 -- 7:23PM, RogueKnight wrote:

for that CR-20, it is sold on multiple sites.  Check www.starshipmodeler.com


I already checked there, they don't have it. There are no Dreadnaught left either, and that's one i really wanted. Googling the CR-20 also leaves me empty-handed, except for www.starfleet-models.com.

Did Odyssey Slipways stop production by any chance? Because there doesn't seem to be many products available from them anywhere.

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