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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 11:10AM
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- SWMGamers Hall of Fame Inductee
- SWM DCI Guru
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Ok guys Wizos is killing the game. We knew that was coming.
So here is how you can help your community and keep this thing going. SWMGamers has looking into doing what the Decipher community did with the players committee.
So moving forward here is the plan we have made on Gamers and hope others will join and help.
Gamers is getting people to work together as a committee.
We have some folks lined up and lord knows they may need some help.
We are going to have people looking at designing virtual sets going forward. Gamers will post these downloadble stats and give folks an idea of corresponding mini that would work. If some customizers want to give instructions on how to make a cool custom of the character then awesome.
We will work hard going forward.
I have spoken to some of our maps guys and they will produce maps for the community going forward also.
Moses and I will continue to insure that Floor Rules and OP issues are handled to keep the game going. Even if that means forming our own sanctioning body for the game (we assume this will be coming soon). We will be looking into making a downloadable event reporting software.
I ask the community to be patient and be helpful now more than ever. If you have something to add dont sit around and think about offer the help. If you can write and event reporting program because you have that skill. Then step up and help us now the community needs it.
I fully expect these boards to recieve less and less attention because while the game was alive they kind of let us know where we stand. So if you have not been to gamers get over there and help us.
As it stand now SWMGamers and Miniature Market will be running all the events at Gencon this year. There will be no drop off in prize support or in number of events.
There will be Regionals this year also. Gamers is already coordinating that and we have expanded the venues. So please everyone keep your chins up.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 11:16AM
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Date Joined:
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Dean, It is awesome that you (and our community) are willing to step up and take on this challenge. Not sure how long WOTC will still support us via DCI or if they will let us fade away (anybody know how long they supported DDM for DCI play). Hopefully WOTC will help us make a smooth transition from one governing body (them) to another (ours) and our community will stay strong.
I will do anything I can to help.
Jason
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 11:19AM
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Date Joined:
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I'd like to help out if I can, but Im confused about how the New Minis will be. I know it's still early, about 2 hours after the announcement, but I am confused. Will the new figures be figures that will have guides how to make out of your own plastic, or will we have rewriting of card texts like the SWCCGPC did? I'd like to remind that SWCCG wasn't legally able to make new cards right away; it was a few years before they could do anything but retext and recost. I'm sure more of what you said will clear of in time; even though I thought the end was probably MotF, I had hoped otherwise and though that the announcement would be after the set was released, so this is kind of a shock, even though it shouldn't be.
EDIT: NVM, I see what it is. A new luke's card for example, that you can use with Luke, Rebel's mini. One thing that I think could work as well, that might be simpler in some ways, is just restatting that luke, completely, and still be able to use the original if you want (specify before game start of course) That way, any legal issues with using names may be avoided.
Do you want to help advance the game when Wizards pulls the plug?
Go Here:
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75862/22337613/Minis_YOU_want_to_see:_The_first_step
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 11:27AM
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Date Joined:
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The cheapest part of any game is the ruleset. With all the hundreds of star wars minatures already out there all you need to do is make new cards and post updated rule sets.
I just wish they made the AAT droid tank
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 11:56AM
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- SWMGamers Hall of Fame Inductee
- Founder of Dynamic Duo EPIC SWM formats
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EDIT: NVM, I see what it is. A new luke's card for example, that you can use with Luke, Rebel's mini. One thing that I think could work as well, that might be simpler in some ways, is just restatting that luke, completely, and still be able to use the original if you want (specify before game start of course) That way, any legal issues with using names may be avoided.
There are plans to do both of these things, actually. I've already begun working on restatting, and have been at it since before Christmas.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 12:07PM
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I urge everyone who is interested in helping out travel to SWMGamers (plus, who knows how long WotC will keep this board around, lol)
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 12:10PM
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Date Joined:
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Death to Star Wars Miniatures, Long live Star Wars Miniatures
That is too bad....We kinda saw it coming but still sad for gamers both RPGer's and Mini's Players.
I, for one, will continue to play and teach the game to my children and any friends that are interested. The game will not change for me. It is good to see that the community is rallying and trying to keep the game moving in verious ways. Keep up the great work!!!
Death to Star Wars Miniatures, Long live Star Wars Miniatures
Minis Mayham podcast
www.d20radio.com
Denver Star Wars Miniatures
http://community.wizards.com/denverstarwarsminiatures
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 12:18PM
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Date Joined:
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EDIT: NVM, I see what it is. A new luke's card for example, that you can use with Luke, Rebel's mini. One thing that I think could work as well, that might be simpler in some ways, is just restatting that luke, completely, and still be able to use the original if you want (specify before game start of course) That way, any legal issues with using names may be avoided.
There are plans to do both of these things, actually. I've already begun working on restatting, and have been at it since before Christmas.
One of the thing that I hope doesn't happen, and the main reason I stopped playing with SWCCGPC's V-cards, is that the sets didn't just make the redone stuff playable or more fun; They made the redone stuff dominate, and completely destroyed the point of the draw phase in the process. The whole thing was about pulling out whatever you wanted from your deck, so much that there was hardly a point in shuffling (in a card game).
Do you want to help advance the game when Wizards pulls the plug?
Go Here:
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75862/22337613/Minis_YOU_want_to_see:_The_first_step
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 12:20PM
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    Personally, while I'm obviously sad to see the end of production for this game which has brought me so much enjoyment over the years, I'm still optimistic, because, as Dean said, the game will go on. I've been keeping up with the various threads dealing with this over at Gamers, and what I read there is very encouraging. Not only will SWM continue, but in some ways it will be better than ever! So if you were planning or hoping to go to Gencon for SWM this year, then I strongly encourage you to still come! It's going to be a BLAST!  I'd like to help out if I can, but Im confused about how the New Minis will be. I know it's still early, about 2 hours after the announcement, but I am confused. Will the new figures be figures that will have guides how to make out of your own plastic, or will we have rewriting of card texts like the SWCCGPC did? I'd like to remind that SWCCG wasn't legally able to make new cards right away; it was a few years before they could do anything but retext and recost. I'm sure more of what you said will clear of in time; even though I thought the end was probably MotF, I had hoped otherwise and though that the announcement would be after the set was released, so this is kind of a shock, even though it shouldn't be.
EDIT: NVM, I see what it is. A new luke's card for example, that you can use with Luke, Rebel's mini. One thing that I think could work as well, that might be simpler in some ways, is just restatting that luke, completely, and still be able to use the original if you want (specify before game start of course) That way, any legal issues with using names may be avoided.
There are a number of ways this could work:
1. Re-cost them...RS Luke, Jedi Knight could now cost 20pts, rather than 27, for example. Keep his stats the same.
2. Re-stat them (slight changes in stats, or in SAs/FPs/CEs), in order to bring them up to par with the current minis. Basically, for example, give Twin Attack to CS Saesee Tiin, and he'll be a solid mini. Keep his cost the same.
3. Re-design them from the ground up, with new stats, abilities, and costs.
As Dean stated, Gamers has already for a while now had some work going in preparation for this event which we all sensed was on the horizon. When it comes to re-designing/re-stating/re-costing the figs, there are a number of people at Gamers who will do an excellent job.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 28, 2010 - 12:23PM
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Personally, while I'm obviously sad to see the end of production for this game which has brought me so much enjoyment over the years, I'm still optimistic, because, as Dean said, the game will go on. I've been keeping up with the various threads dealing with this over at Gamers, and what I read there is very encouraging. Not only will SWM continue, but in some ways it will be better than ever! So if you were planning or hoping to go to Gencon for SWM this year, then I strongly encourage you to still come! It's going to be a BLAST!
I'd like to help out if I can, but Im confused about how the New Minis will be. I know it's still early, about 2 hours after the announcement, but I am confused. Will the new figures be figures that will have guides how to make out of your own plastic, or will we have rewriting of card texts like the SWCCGPC did? I'd like to remind that SWCCG wasn't legally able to make new cards right away; it was a few years before they could do anything but retext and recost. I'm sure more of what you said will clear of in time; even though I thought the end was probably MotF, I had hoped otherwise and though that the announcement would be after the set was released, so this is kind of a shock, even though it shouldn't be.
EDIT: NVM, I see what it is. A new luke's card for example, that you can use with Luke, Rebel's mini. One thing that I think could work as well, that might be simpler in some ways, is just restatting that luke, completely, and still be able to use the original if you want (specify before game start of course) That way, any legal issues with using names may be avoided.
There are a number of ways this could work:
1. Re-cost them...RS Luke, Jedi Knight could now cost 20pts, rather than 27, for example. Keep his stats the same.
2. Re-stat them (slight changes in stats, or in SAs/FPs/CEs), in order to bring them up to par with the current minis. Basically, for example, give Twin Attack to CS Saesee Tiin, and he'll be a solid mini. Keep his cost the same.
3. Re-design them from the ground up, with new stats, abilities, and costs.
As Dean stated, Gamers has already for a while now had some work going in preparation for this event which we all sensed was on the horizon. When it comes to re-designing/re-stating/re-costing the figs, there are a number of people at Gamers who will do an excellent job.
I think I'd lean towards re-statting them. Obviously that could differ from mini to mini. However, there have been so many great abilities/fps introduced into this game, I'd like to see older minis have a few of them. One that comes to mind is giving Yoda of Dagobah Levitate. Heck, some of these new FPs would work great on a Luke (Dark Temptation anyone?) or such.
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