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Corrections on the way! In the mean time, what's the best move with each side? :D

fingersandteeth wrote:

Revan plays the range game.

I would use revans CE to put Caedus on the H3 of the Door and Ain ('t no)Ting to dart Fel. Hope it hits. If it hits then Dart him again followed by Revan Corrupting him at i5 for the quick kill. No bodyguard allowed. Revan will impede the knights process to Caedus who you hope stays alive long enough to dart again, caedus gets the bodyguard.
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These were my thoughts exactly. This strategy makes the best use of your advantages and cancels your opponent's (bodyguard, Cortosis). Dropping your opponent's main beat from the start will give you a huge advantage. Waiting or deferring init will only play to your opponent's strengths. He could try to screen the dart by placing ugnaughts in front of Fel, or simply wait you out with Ozzel.

Having made some abortive attempts at using Caedus as a beatstick, I believe double darting is the way to go. The Fel player made a HUGE mistake by exposing Fel. The dart is so easy to hinder because of the targeting rules. A single well-placed ugnaught would have been such a problem for Caedus....

So, what exactly is the point of this challenge? I think something like this would be more useful if we had a certain goal to acheive within one phase; since writing out all possible situations and responses would make for a very long post (longer than this one). So I'll just say what I would do for both players' first phases of the round. I'd be surprised if nobody else mentions these ideas; but I thought I'd mention them anyway.

For Revan's side: I think the most damaging thing you could do in the given situation is to use Revan's CE to move Caedus to J5. Have Caedus use AtFw and Poison Dart Fel. The first activation would be to have Caedus use Poison Dart again on Fel. For the second activation, I'd move Revan to I5 and use Corruption on Fel. At the least, Fel takes 20 damage (Corruption), and defeated if he fails both saves (20 from Corruption + 80 from Poison Dart x2).

In the likely, but rare chance that Revan's side would lose initiative, I'd probably use Revan's CE to move the Human Scout to D9. That way I could use an activation later in the game to open the door with an Ugnaught then have the Duros Scoundrel move through the door (to F9) and shoot whomever may be a good target for Cunning Attack; have the Human Scout combine fire and assuming that Draco or another character is at J9 the Scoundrel would be attacking with a +17* Attack with +20 Damage while the target gets a -4 Defense.

*(+6 Attack +4 from Cunning Attack, +4 Combine Fire w/ Scout, +3 from Revan's CE)

Another alternative would be to use Revan's CE to move the Human Bodyguard to F6. To have a chance of attacking Caedus, Fel would have to move away from his adjacent allies (the opponent wouldn't get to move anyone adjacent to Fel because of Ozzel). Plus, to get adjacent to Caedus, he would have to provoke an attack of opportunity (a +6 [Revan's CE] won't likely hit a 20 but there's always the possibility) and you wouldn't have to worry about the Gauntlets. If Fel attacks the Bodyguard, he'll probably hit but it would be against a 17, rather than a 14 (again, Revan's CE).

Of course, if you didn't want to put your Bodyguard in harm's way just yet, you could sacrifice an Ugnaught (either the one at B7 or C8 can make it to F6).

For Fel's side: If Revan's side goes first, Emperor Palpatine might be down 1 or 2 Force points; using them to reroll Fel's save versus Caedus' Poison Dart.
If Revan's side chose Fel's to go first, since I only have 1 activation (Ozzel), I'd move the Ugnaught Demolitionist at O8 to J6 so that Revan's side will have to work slightly harder to eliminate Fel, assuming he's still alive. If Fel is dead, I'd use one of the Imperial Knights and move to J6 and attack Revan. I'd have to hit a 25 Defense, but at least I'd have a +13 to do it; thanks to Synergy.

If Fel manages to survive, I'd move a Knight to J4, risking an AoO, and attack Revan. I chose J4 so another character could attack Revan later.

fingersandteeth wrote:

its to make you think....

Fine, let me rephrase; "Other than the obvious, what exactly is the point of this specific challenge?"

fingersandteeth wrote:

I think this move is incorrect as you have now moved revan and cadeus adjacent allowing Emperor palpatine to do 60 dmg rather than 30.

You might want to take another look at the map. Palpatine isn't adjacent to the door so it would have to be openend first. Because Ozzel is on that squad, that'll be a challenge to do with only one activation per phase.

The text below was added later.

Let's say Palpatine didn't have the door to worry about. He couldn't use Lightning against Caedus where he is, he'd have to move to N3 (at the least), leaving him in the open for fun next round. With the exception of luck (rolling crit hits), there's no way Caedus or Revan will be dead at the end of the round; plus luck may really be on my side and a few (if not all attacks) could miss. Provided Wicket and the Duros Scoundrel are where they are during the my last four activations, I'd move Wicket so that he's within 6 of Palpatine and the Duros Scoudrel to D8.

I assume my opponent would want to kill either Sith the next round so they would've had to do as I mentioned above and have the Knights and Draco attack that Sith. I would assume they'd go for Caedus because Palpatine would be able to finish him off with Lightning. Revan would have 10 HP remaining and the Ugnaughts wouldn't be likely to hit. Whichever my opponent chose, wouldn't effect what I would do. Assuming I didn't lose initiative, Caedus would use Revan's CE to move to M2. Caedus would then spend a Force point for Sith Rage and attack Palpatine. Caedus needs a 3 (thanks to Wicket) so he's not likely to miss his two attacks; 60 damage to Palpatine. Since my opponent only has one activation, his response will likely be to defeat the Sith he damaged with the three Knights, which won't be easy now that he's based with Caedus (unless it was Caedus which he'll likely be dead if he had 90 damage). I'd then move the Duros Explorer to D3, which provides an open shot on Palpatine. Duros Scoundrel would need a 6 (thanks to Cunning Attack +20 and Wicket). The Scoundrel isn't likely to miss so Palpatine would take 30; a total of 90 damage.

If Caedus has 90, I would assume my opponent would use Palpatine to Force Storm him for the kill then move into the room, closing the door. Revan would probably attack, at least, one Knight. Even if the Knight gets Gauntlets, Revan can still damage with Corruption and Force Storm. I'd then move the Bodyguard adjacent to Revan, probably shooting whomever I could.

If Revan has 90, Palpatine couldn't Lightning him without provoking AoO (he'd have to move away from Caedus since he's adjacent). I doubt he would since I'd have a Force point for Sith Rage (when he attacked Palpatine he got a Force point) and only need a 3 to hit; he'd be left with 10 HP and would have to leave the safety of the room to get Revan, who would still be alive afterwards. In addition, he'd also get two of his Knights and/or Draco (whichever two are adjacent to Revan). The last reason not to do that, you'd have to move Palpatine so he was no longer in range of Wicket's traps, Revan's Corruption, and also have it so Wicket couldn't deal the last 10. If the two Knights, and Draco, teamed up on Revan, they'd all have to hit (or get a crit) to kill him. Not easy to do with only one activation (again, Ozzel). Palpatine is needed to make the Knights/Draco more formiddable against the Sith and since's he's in immediate danger from Caedus, he'd probably Force Storm him then move into the room; hoping that the Knights/Draco would keep Caedus occupied next round. If that's the case, Palpatine would likely have only 10 HP left from Caedus' AoO.

In other words, if my opponent wants me to give Palpatine a bloody nose, I'd be happy to oblige.