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Revamping the Star Wars Species Stats
2 years ago  ::  May 29, 2008 - 8:53AM #1
peteyrock
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My purpose in this thread is to sort of "raise the bar." When comparing Trandoshans to Duros (and any number of other examples), it's not hard to acknowledge which species will actually be played. A balance must be achieved.

I've learned some things having gone over the races in D&D 4th Edition, and decided to take a nod from their design philosophy. I am not a professional game creator. There will still be mistakes in trying to promote balance in the stats, so please be patient with me.

Some will say this is broken and unbalanced, some will rejoice. I ask all to participate. If you don't necessarily want to create stats on your own, feel free to make a request.

Species I've changed or plan to change:
Aqualish
Balosar
Bith
Bothan
Cathar
Cerean
Chistori
Clawdite
Devaronian
Duros
Ewok
Human
Gamorrean
Gungan
Ithorian
Kel Dor
Mantellian Savrip
Mon Calamari
Muun
Nautolan
Neimoidian
Noghri
Quarren
Rodian
Shistavanen
Skakoan
Sullustan
Togorian
Trandoshan
Twi'lek
Umbaran
Wookiee
Zabrak
Zeltron

Use Human stats for near-human species that have no difference from humans beyond visible traits. These species would be Chiss, Nagai, etc.

Submitted species statistics:
Arkanian - by ErikModi
Chiss - by ErikModi
Falleen - By ErikModi
Gran - by NPCMook
Kushiban - by NPCMook
Miraluka - by ErikModi
Neti - by NPCMook
Rodian - by Morrowner
Togruta - by Caylen
Ubese - by ErikModi
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2 years ago  ::  May 29, 2008 - 9:24AM #2
RobShanti
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Petey,

Have you seen the two different versions of the Balosar, one of which was statted by WizO_Tao and the other by Isirga Eth? If one of these is the one to which you're referring above, maybe the other will suit you? (Both are available in the appendices of the "Saga Alien Anthology" sourcebook in my sig.)

Otherwise, your version looks very good.
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2 years ago  ::  May 29, 2008 - 9:49AM #3
peteyrock
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RobShanti wrote:

Petey,

Have you seen the two different versions of the Balosar, one of which was statted by WizO_Tao and the other by Isirga Eth? If one of these is the one to which you're referring above, maybe the other will suit you? (Both are available in the appendices of the "Saga Alien Anthology" sourcebook in my sig.)

Otherwise, your version looks very good.


Yes, I'm afraid that neither one of those stat blocks float my boat. They generally produce the same thing, but go about it in different ways. Thank you for the compliment!

BTW, last night I finally checked my e-mail and saw that you had sent me the picture I requested. Thank you!

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2 years ago  ::  May 29, 2008 - 11:42AM #4
RobShanti
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peteyrock wrote:

Thank you!


You're welcome on both counts.

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"ALL-PURPOSE" SAGA EDITION SOURCEBOOK Saga stats for NPCs, droids, ships/vehicles, weapons/gear, etc.
SAGA EDITION SPECIES SOURCEBOOK Official & fan-made Saga stats for your favorite species
THE CENTRALITY: A SAGA EDITION GUIDE AND GAZETTEER As featured in The Lando Calrissian Adventures
THE CORPORATE SECTOR SOURCEBOOK (NEW!) As featured in Brian Daley's Han Solo novels and original edition of the Star Wars RPG
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2 years ago  ::  May 30, 2008 - 11:53AM #5
peteyrock
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Has no one any changes or suggestions?
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 25, 2008 - 10:46AM #6
peteyrock
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Noghri



Ability Modifiers: +2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution.  Noghri are tough and fast, and have often made excellent bodyguards.
Medium Size: As Medium creatures, Noghri have no special bonuses or penalties due to size.
Speed: Base speed is 6 squares.
Scent: Noghri ignore concealment and cover when making Perception checks to notice creatures within 10 squares, and they take no penalty from poor visibility when tracking.
Death Commandos: Noghri unarmed damage is treated as one dice step higher than other creatures of their size category.  Thus, a Medium Noghri does 1d6 unarmed damage.  If the same Noghri were to take Martial Arts feats, their damage dice would step up accordingly.
Conditional Bonus Feat: Noghri trained in Stealth receive Skill Focus (Stealth) as a species bonus feat.
Automatic Languages: Honoghran and Basic.

Homeworld: Honoghr
Average Height: 1.4 meters to 1.7 meters
Average Weight: 63 kg to 70 kg
Age: child 1-9 years, young adult 10-15 years, adult 16-34 years, middle age 35-49 years, old 50-59 years, venerable 60+ years
Example Names: Khabarakh, Rukh, Kahr’corvh, and Cakhmaim.
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 25, 2008 - 11:49AM #7
RobShanti
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Hey, Pete...you do know that there are official WotC stats for the Noghri, right?

Noghri (Official Wizards of the Coast stats) Show

Ability Modifiers: +2 Dex, –4 Cha
Size: Small
Speed: 6 squares
Bonus Feat: Noghri are always trained in self-defense from a very early age. All Noghri gain the Martial Arts I feat as a bonus feat.
Intuitive Initiative: A Noghri has quick reflexes and may choose to reroll any Initiative check, but the result of the reroll must be accepted even if it is worse.
Low-Light Vision: Noghri ignore concealment (but not total concealment) from darkness.
Primitive: Noghri do not gain Weapon Proficiency (pistols, rifles, or heavy weapons) as starting feats at 1st level, even if their class normally grants those feats.
Scent: Noghri have a keen sense of smell. At close range (within 10 squares), Noghri ignore concealment and cover for purposes of Perception checks, and they take no penalty for poor visibility when tracking (see Survival skill, Saga Edition Core Rulebook, page 73).
Languages: Honoghran.

That said, if you've made these because you're displeased with the official stats, then, they looked pretty balanced.
FAN-MADE SAGA ED. ADVENTURES Nearly a score of free, fan-made Star Wars adventures for Saga Ed.
"ALL-PURPOSE" SAGA EDITION SOURCEBOOK Saga stats for NPCs, droids, ships/vehicles, weapons/gear, etc.
SAGA EDITION SPECIES SOURCEBOOK Official & fan-made Saga stats for your favorite species
THE CENTRALITY: A SAGA EDITION GUIDE AND GAZETTEER As featured in The Lando Calrissian Adventures
THE CORPORATE SECTOR SOURCEBOOK (NEW!) As featured in Brian Daley's Han Solo novels and original edition of the Star Wars RPG
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 25, 2008 - 12:21PM #8
peteyrock
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RobShanti wrote:

Hey, Pete...you do know that there are official WotC stats for the Noghri, right?

Noghri (Official Wizards of the Coast stats) Show


Ability Modifiers: +2 Dex, –4 Cha
Size: Small
Speed: 6 squares
Bonus Feat: Noghri are always trained in self-defense from a very early age. All Noghri gain the Martial Arts I feat as a bonus feat.
Intuitive Initiative: A Noghri has quick reflexes and may choose to reroll any Initiative check, but the result of the reroll must be accepted even if it is worse.
Low-Light Vision: Noghri ignore concealment (but not total concealment) from darkness.
Primitive: Noghri do not gain Weapon Proficiency (pistols, rifles, or heavy weapons) as starting feats at 1st level, even if their class normally grants those feats.
Scent: Noghri have a keen sense of smell. At close range (within 10 squares), Noghri ignore concealment and cover for purposes of Perception checks, and they take no penalty for poor visibility when tracking (see Survival skill, Saga Edition Core Rulebook, page 73).
Languages: Honoghran.

That said, if you've made these because you're displeased with the official stats, then, they looked pretty balanced.


Yeah, it's pretty much the same story again. One of my players wants a Noghri. I looked over his character and was displeased. He was incapable compared to the other players. Primitive is about the worst species trait there is. Plus, I don't see any cause for low-light vision, which can get kind of redundant with scent anyway. We'll see if the player likes this. EDIT: I almost forgot. They shouldn't be small. Wookieepedia lists their average height at a lowest of 1.4 meters, while the Medium size category reaches down to 1.3 meters.

I simply posted this here as a way for me to keep track of it. Yet, if anyone has any input, I appreciate it. I'm even thinking of redoing a number of species (Zabrak has been bothering me for a long time).

Thanks, Rob.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 25, 2008 - 12:42PM #9
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You go, Pete!
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SAGA EDITION SPECIES SOURCEBOOK Official & fan-made Saga stats for your favorite species
THE CENTRALITY: A SAGA EDITION GUIDE AND GAZETTEER As featured in The Lando Calrissian Adventures
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 25, 2008 - 12:47PM #10
peteyrock
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RobShanti wrote:

You go, Pete!



I'm sorry. I've just never received such a grand opportunity to use that smiley.

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