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3 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2010 - 5:49AM #11
Dragon9
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Aug 29, 2010 -- 9:03PM, Corwynn wrote:


Maybe this helps you to understand why some people in FR are passionate about Mystra.  It's not like there's not good cause for it.




My statement is more form the observance that Mystra is exceedingly popular and she's a rather boring deity.  IMHO of course.    She's involved with everything, her chosen were all Mary Sues of authors and creators of the FR... she just has a ton of fanbois and it's something I cannot wrap my head around. 

I suppose it makes sense from the stand point that those who are really passionate about the FR are those who really like the lore and Mystra has been an integral part of the lore since the beginning.  I would say it's because she and her Chosen are constantly sticking their noses into everything, but YMMV. 

Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials.  So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy.  Can we just get back to real 4e?

Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 31, 2010 - 1:10AM #12
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Sounds like a good Epic-level My Realms adventure: Restore Mystra.
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 31, 2010 - 5:43AM #13
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Aug 31, 2010 -- 1:10AM, Dodecahedron wrote:

Sounds like a good Epic-level My Realms adventure: Destroy Mystra.




Fixed that for ya. 

Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials.  So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy.  Can we just get back to real 4e?

Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki.

1. Wizards fight dirty.  They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9
2. A barbarian hits people with his axe.  A warlord hits people with his barbarian.
3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 31, 2010 - 5:58AM #14
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Aug 31, 2010 -- 5:43AM, Dragon9 wrote:

Aug 31, 2010 -- 1:10AM, Dodecahedron wrote:

Sounds like a good Epic-level My Realms adventure: Destroy Mystra.




Fixed that for ya. 




Sigh...too late...

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 31, 2010 - 12:14PM #15
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Aug 30, 2010 -- 5:49AM, Dragon9 wrote:

I suppose it makes sense from the stand point that those who are really passionate about the FR are those who really like the lore and Mystra has been an integral part of the lore since the beginning.  I would say it's because she and her Chosen are constantly sticking their noses into everything, but YMMV. 


I think we've found the truth -- don't hate the deity OOC because you can't stand her Chosen. ;-)

It seems like you recognize there is plenty of reason to venerate Mystra based on the lore, you just don't like the fanbois and the idol worship of her Chosen by authors.

I don't care for her Chosen either, but I'm able to separate the two.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 31, 2010 - 12:15PM #16
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Aug 31, 2010 -- 5:43AM, Dragon9 wrote:

Aug 31, 2010 -- 1:10AM, Dodecahedron wrote:

Sounds like a good Epic-level My Realms adventure: Destroy Mystra.


Fixed that for ya. 


Could be neat.  One epic quest to bring her back, while another evil group is on a quest to destroy her as soon as she is reborn.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 31, 2010 - 2:46PM #17
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Aug 31, 2010 -- 12:14PM, Corwynn wrote:

Aug 30, 2010 -- 5:49AM, Dragon9 wrote:

I suppose it makes sense from the stand point that those who are really passionate about the FR are those who really like the lore and Mystra has been an integral part of the lore since the beginning.  I would say it's because she and her Chosen are constantly sticking their noses into everything, but YMMV. 


I think we've found the truth -- don't hate the deity OOC because you can't stand her Chosen. ;-)

It seems like you recognize there is plenty of reason to venerate Mystra based on the lore, you just don't like the fanbois and the idol worship of her Chosen by authors.

I don't care for her Chosen either, but I'm able to separate the two.




It's not just the idol worship and fanbois... I can't stand her "in character"/"in lore" either.   When I heard that for 4e they killed her off and mentioned their plans were for her to stay dead I did a little jig. 

Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials.  So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy.  Can we just get back to real 4e?

Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki.

1. Wizards fight dirty.  They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9
2. A barbarian hits people with his axe.  A warlord hits people with his barbarian.
3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2010 - 2:05AM #18
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Perhaps a Battle Interactive with two paths: restore and destroy.
Calculate points for each side and determine which is victorious.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2010 - 12:58PM #19
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Sep 1, 2010 -- 2:05AM, Dodecahedron wrote:

Perhaps a Battle Interactive with two paths: restore and destroy.
Calculate points for each side and determine which is victorious.


What reason would non-evil PCs have to destroy Mystra?

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2010 - 1:06PM #20
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Sep 1, 2010 -- 12:58PM, Corwynn wrote:

Sep 1, 2010 -- 2:05AM, Dodecahedron wrote:

Perhaps a Battle Interactive with two paths: restore and destroy.
Calculate points for each side and determine which is victorious.


What reason would non-evil PCs have to destroy Mystra?





I can think of many reasons, but the simplest one is that restoring Mystra could be just as dangerous to the post-Spellplague Realms as destroying her was to the pre-Spellplague Realms...

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