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3 years ago ::
Mar 15, 2010 - 6:24PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 15, 2001
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What are the rules for turning an existing implement into a superior implement? Do you just pay the cost for a superior implement, or do you need to use the Transfer Enchantment ritual to move the enchantment?
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3 years ago ::
Mar 15, 2010 - 6:43PM
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I'm curious, as well.
My assumption is that one would have to use Transfer Enchantment, similar to moving an enchantment from (for example) a longsword to a bastard sword, but I'd like to see confirmation of that.
"Of course [Richard] has a knife. He always has a knife. We all have knives. It's 1183, and we're barbarians!" - Eleanor of Aquitaine, "The Lion in Winter"
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3 years ago ::
Mar 15, 2010 - 8:35PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 16, 2002
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Yeah, buy one then transfer enchantment. (Don't forget the feat too)
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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3 years ago ::
Mar 16, 2010 - 1:39AM
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I just paid my taxes. Now I have more?
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3 years ago ::
Mar 16, 2010 - 5:10AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 24, 2007
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Strangely enough...
A dagger costs one gold piece. A magical +1 dagger costs 360 gp, not 361.
A superior spiked chain costs 30 gp. A magical +2 chain costs 1800 gp, not 1830.
A standard wand costs 7 gp. A magical +1 rod costs 360 gp, not 367.
A superior oaken wand costs 25 gp. A magical +1 oaken wand costs, what? 360 gp or 385?
(not that such amounts matter in the least once you've gained a few levels, but it's curious that the rules don't specify)
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3 years ago ::
Mar 16, 2010 - 5:12AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 10, 2007
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The rules state that the masterwork cost is included in the cost of magical implements.
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3 years ago ::
Mar 16, 2010 - 5:47AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 16, 2002
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Only if you are buying one outright. If you are looking to swap out an implement you already have for a superior version, you can buy one for whatever the cost and pay 200 gp for the ritual scroll + components.
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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3 years ago ::
Mar 16, 2010 - 6:44AM
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No offense but are you really getting that nit-picky about a few gold pieces?  I didn't realize these could be used with enchantments (not sure why I didn't). So, in theory, could I have an Accurate Master's Wand of [***]?
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3 years ago ::
Mar 16, 2010 - 6:49AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 24, 2007
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No offense but are you really getting that nit-picky about a few gold pieces?
Nope. As I said in my post "not that such amounts matter in the least".
So, in theory, could I have an Accurate Master's Wand of [***]?
Yes.
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3 years ago ::
Mar 16, 2010 - 10:15AM
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I'm looking more at the feat tax, not the actual gold being spent.
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