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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 6:11PM #1
KarmaInferno
Date Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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Hey all,

March Update is out:

www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/u...

Just started browsing through it, but so far it appears that if I thought my lockdown wizard was feeling a little crippled by the last update, she's had her legs completely cut off by this one. I may have to rebuild her from the ground up with a different focus. Luckily I can do that now.

Interestingly, Dice of Auspicious Fortune were errata'd, but not in a way that actually adresses the real problem with the item. They now get used before you make the attack roll - use the stored result instead of making the attack roll. Okay, so you don't get to know beforehand whether you actually needed the Dice or not.

But that wasn't the real problem. It's still an Encounter power. Which means you could still buy multiple sets of the Dice and therefore keep using them multiple times per encounter.



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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 7:30PM #2
tilobin
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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Mar 3, 2010 -- 6:11PM, KarmaInferno wrote:

But that wasn't the real problem. It's still an Encounter power. Which means you could still buy multiple sets of the Dice and therefore keep using them multiple times per encounter.




Sure, at the cost of using up all your daily item powers uses. given the typical 4 encounter mod, you're talking 6 rolls total: 3 before the milestone, 3 after the milestone (from the second set).

math suggests only 3 will be > 10 (on average, though law of small numbers applies).  you won't be able to use 2 of them in an encounter until after the milestone, since you won't have 2 sets stored for use.  so yes: you could certainly make that last encounter into some guaranteed hits, but then, so does a taclord in your party, and he leaves you free to use some other item powers.




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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 8:06PM #3
Mommy_was_an_Orc
Date Joined: Apr 25, 2002
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Mar 3, 2010 -- 6:11PM, KarmaInferno wrote:

Interestingly, Dice of Auspicious Fortune were errata'd, but not in a way that actually adresses the real problem with the item. They now get used before you make the attack roll - use the stored result instead of making the attack roll. Okay, so you don't get to know beforehand whether you actually needed the Dice or not.




They're definitely still good, but losing the reroll really takes a big giant whack out of their effectiveness. There are definitely a lot of equally useful items out there...

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 9:39PM #4
Mind_Flayer_Monk
Date Joined: Dec 5, 2005
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You can also use the power salve to recharge any encounter attack power, so PP powers are fair game or if youve got a nice one you like (emmm... Cursegrind, etc) or your level 13 encounter stun, you can use it again.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 9:43PM #5
GrahamWills
Date Joined: Mar 16, 2006
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Mar 3, 2010 -- 6:11PM, KarmaInferno wrote:

Hey all,

March Update is out:

www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/u...

Just started browsing through it, but so far it appears that if I thought my lockdown wizard was feeling a little crippled by the last update, she's had her legs completely cut off by this one. I may have to rebuild her from the ground up with a different focus. Luckily I can do that now.




Yeah, they're doing a nice job of fixing problems. Several expected fixes which look good even if they affect my character. I knew Blood Pulse was too good when I got a set of three undead with it and then a cleric pushed them 7 squares to do a total 21d6 damage ... the fix to only damage on voluntary movement makes a lot of sense. Ditto for the Caiphon "just give me the radiant criticals, ma'am" power. 

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2010 - 10:41AM #6
eudemonist
Date Joined: Feb 28, 2008
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My PMC Fighter/Cleric has a sad about Righteous Brand.  Been waiting for it for ten levels, get to play with it once, and *wham*.

Seems like they might have worked out all the PHB errata some time ago.  I guess people are just now realizing attribute bonuses can get pretty large, as we're getting into higher-tier play.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2010 - 11:13AM #7
Mommy_was_an_Orc
Date Joined: Apr 25, 2002
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Mar 4, 2010 -- 10:41AM, eudemonist wrote:

My PMC Fighter/Cleric has a sad about Righteous Brand.  Been waiting for it for ten levels, get to play with it once, and *wham*.




Try Insightful Strike instead(Warlord at-will from MP2). If anything, it is better than Righteous Brand. You hit, you add either Wis or Cha to +1 instead of +2 from CA for anyone in your party...

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2010 - 11:48AM #8
eudemonist
Date Joined: Feb 28, 2008
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Not bad, if I was a warlord, I guess.  I don't much cotton to the "complete retrain", though.  I'll just take my +3 and be happy(ish).


 

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2010 - 11:57AM #9
amysrevenge
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Mar 4, 2010 -- 10:41AM, eudemonist wrote:

My PMC Fighter/Cleric has a sad about Righteous Brand.  Been waiting for it for ten levels, get to play with it once, and *wham*.




Similar (but lesser) sad here - got my Str to 22 at 11, but haven't played yet.  Oh well.  Still better than a melee basic, and puts Priest's Shield on the radar.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 04, 2010 - 12:04PM #10
eudemonist
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Yeah, if we could just get a Dragon article assigning domains to the lesser deities (Clangeddin, Dumathoin, etc.), maybe I could get it as an MBA replacement.  THAT would happy me.
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