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3 years ago  ::  Mar 09, 2010 - 9:03AM #71
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Mar 8, 2010 -- 12:30PM, Thanlis wrote:

Mar 8, 2010 -- 12:02PM, tirianmal wrote:

I'd really like to see the old RPGA download section thrown away and a new set of rules posted. But I'm not going to hold my breath.



I'd settle for thrown away. I think the inaccurate rules are worse than no rules at all, in this case.



I saw a lot of gamers unhappy when the infraction stuff came up. They saw it as overreaching and something a bad/forceful organizer/DM could use against reasonable players. Meh. However, it seems to me that these rules are seldom used.

The main rules document is pretty archaic and should really be removed. Anything judged important should just be brought into the CCG.

Keith, I hear your logic. I respectfully disagree. I've made the same argument you are making now earlier in the campaign but changed my mind after seeing too many issues with the document. I have no confidence that someone created the CCG as a deliberate addendum to the RPGA document. They seem separate and thus conflicting.

I'll repeat what I have said elsewhere: the CCG should be rewritten from the ground up, with Bgibbons given at least the opportunity for a draft or editorial input before it is released. The benefits would be good enough for the campaign, in my mind, to merit the effort. One of the whole points of the CCG was to make things easy on new players, but we haven't attained that goal.

For the issue at hand, it seems at least two writing directors have the understanding that authors cannot play their own adventure. That understanding does not carry over to all authors. The CCG and writing guidelines both need that language if that is what will be in place. I'm ok with authors playing and choosing just more gold, but I don't have a strong feeling either way.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 09, 2010 - 9:14AM #72
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If the General Rules are still operative, then you cannot play an adventure that you have sanctioned for home play.  That rule has not been overridden by any more recent rules.  (You can find it in between the one that says authors can't play and the one that says you can't play after you DM.)

I would find it difficult to argue that such is the current rules.

Mar 9, 2010 -- 9:03AM, Alphastream1 wrote:

I'll repeat what I have said elsewhere: the CCG should be rewritten from the ground up, with Bgibbons given at least the opportunity for a draft or editorial input before it is released.


Heh.  I'd love to have a chance to give input, but the important thing is more that multiple sets of experienced eyes take a look at the draft document.  There are a number of talented members of campaign staff out there; Keith, himself, has been involved in putting out more than his share of CCGs.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 09, 2010 - 3:13PM #73
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The LFR Global Admins now have the authority, I believe, to rewrite the CCG (or at least the LFR portion of it) themselves now.  I think as soon as they decide what they want to include/changes made, they will do so.  I know for a fact they are seriously weighing the question of removing any limitation on authors, and I think they will make such rules clear in the future.

Mr Tulach promised last year to rewrite the RPGA General Guidelines but that did not happen. To say I was disappointed is an understatement.

Obviously it is hard for us to make WotC staff take any particular action; they don't answer to us.

I can (and would) tease Sean Molley as likely to write a very wordy change (he is a friend), but then he might make me edit it. Foot in mouth 

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 09, 2010 - 3:35PM #74
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Mar 9, 2010 -- 3:13PM, Keith53 wrote:

I can (and would) tease Sean Molley as likely to write a very wordy change (he is a friend), but then he might make me edit it.  



I have no grounds upon which to call someone else wordy. (And this is the shortest thing I've written in ages.)

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2010 - 12:32PM #75
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Read what can happen when an author plays he own mod:

community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...
DALE1-6 The Vesperin Initiative (P1) (author)
LURU2-2 Shadows of the Knights (H3) (author)
DALE2-4 Illsyldra (P1) (author)
IMPI2-4 Goblins Strike Back (P3) (co-author)
NETH4-3 Purifying the Profit (paragon) (co-author)
ABER4-1 The Price of Freedom (paragon) (co-author)
EPIC4-2 Age of Ruin (Epic) (co-author) (in development)
BALD3-1 Lost Refuge (paragon) (co-author) (in development)
NEVE4-3 Spider's Web (heroic) (co-author) (in development)
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