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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 6:22AM #11
Joe_Shill
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No listing of any 2010 player resources becoming legal.

Looks like a huge oversight, as it only lists 2009 resources.

So, as written, the Dragonborn book won't be legal anytime soon. 
"At Gencon 2010, WOTC will announce a new edition of Dungeons & Dragons." - crm(1/2010)
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24AM #12
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Jan 28, 2010 -- 4:15AM, dkay807 wrote:

Jan 27, 2010 -- 10:09PM, battles14 wrote:

On another note, let me be the first to take credit for the new adventuring company requirements.  I submit the following post from September 18, 2009:

I thought that change had no chance...no chance.  I'm floored to see that someone took it seriously.




Was Windows 7 your idea as well?


Of course I called my mom!  She had to know this!

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 6:30AM #13
Joe_Shill
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Conflicting statements:

"Whenever your character gains a level, you may retrain out any and all character-based rules options, except for the following:
• Your character race (you may retrain race-based options that you chose)
• Your character class (you may retrain your build)"

"• Select a character region. Choose a region within the Forgotten Realms for your character. This is the place where your character hails from or considers their place of origin. Once you've chosen a region for your character, that choice remains for the rest of your character’s life. It’s as much a part of your character as its race. You cannot retrain your region, although you may retrain your background(s)."

Interestingly, it seems that according to the RAW, you could be from Akanul, but have a background from Windrise Ports.  Which could make some sense in a rp way.  "Oh yeah, my family owns vast tracts of land in Akanul, but I was sent to boarding school in Windrise Ports, and grew up running numbers for a crime syndicate there..."
"At Gencon 2010, WOTC will announce a new edition of Dungeons & Dragons." - crm(1/2010)
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 6:46AM #14
NoFearCavalier
Date Joined: Dec 13, 2002
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I agree that ability score retraining needs to be explicitly called out.

Also, the sections on effective dates for rules changes is very confusing.  It says they become effective 30 days after publishing on the WoTC site, but this document says "effective Feb 1st".  Then it goes on to say that "Players who are able to incorporate the updates into their characters sooner than 30 days are encouraged to do so." 


The implication is that you can not only fix problems with your PCs before the 30 day-effective date, but you can take advantage of new content as well.  So, one could ask whether the same applies to this version of the document.  Can players incorporate the updates into their characters sooner than the effective date?  Or is the Feb 1st date meant to be the "publishing date" and the "effective date" is March 1st?

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 6:55AM #15
AlphaAnt
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The new CCG does not contain the Advancement Tracker and Adventure Log which were at the end of the previous version. Are these going to be posted as separate downloads?
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 6:58AM #16
dkay807
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Jan 28, 2010 -- 6:22AM, Joe_Shill wrote:

So, as written, the Dragonborn book won't be legal anytime soon. 




Actually, under "Player's Handbook Series" you'll notice the additional text stating "including races series." Clearly, the Dragonborn book and all PHB Races books will be legal upon release.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 7:14AM #17
Mommy_was_an_Orc
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Jan 28, 2010 -- 6:30AM, Joe_Shill wrote:

Interestingly, it seems that according to the RAW, you could be from Akanul, but have a background from Windrise Ports.  Which could make some sense in a rp way.  "Oh yeah, my family owns vast tracts of land in Akanul, but I was sent to boarding school in Windrise Ports, and grew up running numbers for a crime syndicate there..."




You can only have one regional background regardless of whether or not you have a benefit from it - you can't be from Akanul and then pick the benefit of Windrise Ports. You could choose to be from Akanul and take the regional benefit and then retrain it to be Born Under a Bad Sign.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 7:18AM #18
Joe_Shill
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Jan 28, 2010 -- 6:58AM, dkay807 wrote:

Jan 28, 2010 -- 6:22AM, Joe_Shill wrote:

So, as written, the Dragonborn book won't be legal anytime soon. 




Actually, under "Player's Handbook Series" you'll notice the additional text stating "including races series." Clearly, the Dragonborn book and all PHB Races books will be legal upon release.




Ahhh.  Thanks

"At Gencon 2010, WOTC will announce a new edition of Dungeons & Dragons." - crm(1/2010)
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 7:21AM #19
Joe_Shill
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Jan 28, 2010 -- 7:14AM, Mommy_was_an_Orc wrote:

Jan 28, 2010 -- 6:30AM, Joe_Shill wrote:

Interestingly, it seems that according to the RAW, you could be from Akanul, but have a background from Windrise Ports.  Which could make some sense in a rp way.  "Oh yeah, my family owns vast tracts of land in Akanul, but I was sent to boarding school in Windrise Ports, and grew up running numbers for a crime syndicate there..."




You can only have one regional background regardless of whether or not you have a benefit from it - you can't be from Akanul and then pick the benefit of Windrise Ports. You could choose to be from Akanul and take the regional benefit and then retrain it to be Born Under a Bad Sign.




"Select a character background. You may choose a character background benefit from any player resource. You may gain a background benefit from your character region (if the region has a benefit listed in the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide) or one based on your race, occupation or other background (as listed in Player's Handbook 2 and other sources). However, you only gain the mechanical benefit of one background, not from both your region and another source."

I think you are correct here, and that I misread on first pass. 

"At Gencon 2010, WOTC will announce a new edition of Dungeons & Dragons." - crm(1/2010)
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26AM #20
Mommy_was_an_Orc
Date Joined: Apr 25, 2002
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Jan 28, 2010 -- 7:21AM, Joe_Shill wrote:

I think you are correct here, and that I misread on first pass. 




np. That CCG is a lot to take in.

I'm noticing another issue actually - odd/even stats. As an example, there's no benefit to having an odd stat other than you can make it even. So as an example, you could now do the following:
Have a Wizard start with a 20 Int/14 Wis.
At 4th, rebuild so technically, you started with a 19 Int/15 Wis(which is now 20/16) and have 2 free points for somewhere else.
At 8th, rebuild so you now have a 22 Int/16.

And so on. 

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