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Dec 18, 2009 -- 10:09PM, Tosta_Dojen wrote:

Wow, really Dave?  People raise complaints about the handling of rather important issues and this is how you react to that?  I mean, really?

I've never been to one of your shows, but now I'm pretty sure I never want to.  What if, God forbid, I felt it necessary to complain to you about something I found to be unacceptable?  From what you've written here, you'd apparently berate me for being too emotionally tied up in a game, and tell me to go work something out myself.

It's entirely possible for something of relative unimportance, like a game, to be handled in a way that is unacceptable and that needs to be corrected.  It's perfectly legitimate to complain to the people in charge so that they can take corrective action.  It doesn't seem like you comprehend this.

It's the debate on what is an 'important' issue. Obviously me and a few others don't see this as being as big of a deal as others do.

Well I am sorry to hear you have never been to one of my shows and I like to think that if you had you would have had a great time (and if you met me what I say might make more sense). People have complaints at shows all the time. I give all of them my attention but I will admit some I take a lot more seriously then others.

If you complain the AC vent above your table rattles to much and makes it hard to hear (has happened) then yes that is serious and by all means I moved the tables and did my best to not use those tables in that area for the rest of the show.

If you complain that you really wanted to play with your friends but the way the levels broke down it was not possible is there something else you could play (happened) then by all means I'll do my best to make it happen.

Half your table left in the middle of the adventure to go play in True Dungeon (happened) then I'll fix it.

Fire drills? bad judges? missing judges?  They've all happened and they have all been fixed.

Having players have fun is the goal. At the same time there is no such thing as 100% happiness and some are just going to want unreasonable things or have unreasonable expectations of the adventure/show/campaign.

My judge was tougher, ran it differently, was slow, was to fast, had better luck, cheated, etc. then my friends judge and they got more then we did . .I demand what they got.  Nope.

You are totally correct that anything of any importance level can be handled poorly.

Making campaign staff aware of your feelings so hopefully it can be corrected if enough feel that way or they agree is also an excellent way to do things.

Screaming about it, calling others name, making demands, belittling others, exagerating your claims/others claims, or EVERYBODY feels this way is not. Saying you are going to cheat or what you are doing is not cheating because you are justified is not the way to do it. Flaunting that fact is just adding rude to the list of offenses.

The customer is always right is a totally false statement. You should always listen to the customer, you should value their input and respect them, but they are far from always right.

Dave C

Dec 17, 2009 -- 4:49PM, WotC_Tulach wrote:

After having a discussion with our update crew here this afternoon, I've released the following blog post on the LFR groups site regarding an interim update policy for LFR.

Very glad to see this!  Thanks.

While I can't say that I have agreed with 100% of Dave's opinions or rulings, he runs a darn good con.  IMHO (from 30 years of gaming), Dave runs among the best cons there are.  Dave can be blunt at times, but you always know where he stands on an issue.  I consider him a friend and very trustworthy.

Decisions regarding adjustments due to errata are bound to be contentious and will not please everyone.  Some gamers would prefer an approach that is like the D&D Campaign style -- you could rebuild your character (except for xp and gp) every time you play, while other gamers hate that approach with immense passion.  Large shared world campaigns involve some degree of compromise.


Keith