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3 years ago ::
Dec 03, 2009 - 1:52PM
#11
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Date Joined:
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"Can you do better?" is not a legitimate response to criticism.
It is, however, an indirect request for constructive criticism.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 03, 2009 - 2:11PM
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Its not really a possible solution. Its not like i can sit down, type a handful of neato cool powers, email it, and get to have it in the dragon.
Sure, you can. They accept submissions. You need to be a good writer, and have a good grasp of 4E mechanics, to have a legitimate shot at getting it published, of course, but it's not an impossibility.
"Of course [Richard] has a knife. He always has a knife. We all have knives. It's 1183, and we're barbarians!" - Eleanor of Aquitaine, "The Lion in Winter"
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3 years ago ::
Dec 03, 2009 - 3:51PM
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Well, if you think they need to produce more content, then perhaps you should be the one to provide it. Submit a proposal to Dragon.
"Can you do better?" is not a legitimate response to criticism.
It is when it is a possible solution.
Its not really a possible solution. Its not like i can sit down, type a handful of neato cool powers, email it, and get to have it in the dragon. Its kinda like he complained about not having money fast enough and you sent him to casino. That was ran by carnies. And since an hour of time is worth 7.25 apperently, that means for every hour he spends trying to play your carnie casino, he just spent 7.25.
I guess you don't want it bad enough.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 03, 2009 - 8:46PM
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Date Joined:
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Its not really a possible solution. Its not like i can sit down, type a handful of neato cool powers, email it, and get to have it in the dragon. Its kinda like he complained about not having money fast enough and you sent him to casino. That was ran by carnies. And since an hour of time is worth 7.25 apperently, that means for every hour he spends trying to play your carnie casino, he just spent 7.25.
Maybe it's the fever I'm running, but this made no sense to me.
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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3 years ago ::
Dec 04, 2009 - 1:03AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 11, 2006
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Its not really a possible solution. Its not like i can sit down, type a handful of neato cool powers, email it, and get to have it in the dragon. Its kinda like he complained about not having money fast enough and you sent him to casino. That was ran by carnies. And since an hour of time is worth 7.25 apperently, that means for every hour he spends trying to play your carnie casino, he just spent 7.25.
Maybe it's the fever I'm running, but this made no sense to me.
Its simple really. Even if I was to sit down and write a bunch of stuff and send it in, what are the odds it will even see the door of the editor? Since minimum wage is 7.25 per hour, that means that for every hour I've spent, I used up 7.25 of my time. Carnies don't play fair. Thus they are likely to rip you off. Casinos don't play fair either. So combine carnies and casinios and you have a double rip off.
In this case though he isn't so much getting ripped off as he is just getting the shaft. Course the counter argument is "go make it yourself!" in which i detest it. Particarlly because as someone said, you have to have a good ability to write and a good grasp of 4e. As you are reading through this, you can obviously tell that my ability to write is sub-par and incapable of supporting the massive requirements that are needed in order to write an artical. You did say after all that what i thought made perfect sense made no sense. Its filled with spelling and grammer and whatever other writing mistakes.
Then there is my grasp on 4ed rules. I think i have a pretty good grasp on how 4ed works. But everyone always tells me how wrong i am. Fighters can't be a defender with a bow. Races can't be large. You can't have any overlap between classes, you can have overlap between classes. Strikers arn't concerd with actually living through a fight, only zergin the enemy and spaming every attack they have in the first round. ect ect ect.
Just ask Crimson_Concerto. He tells me how dumb i am all the time. (Mind you not directly saying I'm dumb, I'm just paraphrasing lots of comments about what i thought would work and he says won't.)
The complaint of course is that there isn't enough artificer content. Does this mean that no artificer content has ever been sent in by the raving public? I doubt thats the case. I can bet fairly well that there are people sending in things all the time.. changeling feats, shifter racial features, or content for the left out classes. There was a guy who sent in some stuff on kobolds. Never heard anything about it. Infact most of the stuff we are seeing now, reeks of oldness. Like a couple months old. granted they get updated a little bit, but seriously they seem to be behind themselves.
I'd get along more with people if they didn't jump onto a hyberbole every single time you say something they don't understand.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 04, 2009 - 5:38AM
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Dec 28, 2005
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The complaint of course is that there isn't enough artificer content. Does this mean that no artificer content has ever been sent in by the raving public? I doubt thats the case. I can bet fairly well that there are people sending in things all the time.. changeling feats, shifter racial features, or content for the left out classes. There was a guy who sent in some stuff on kobolds. Never heard anything about it. Infact most of the stuff we are seeing now, reeks of oldness. Like a couple months old. granted they get updated a little bit, but seriously they seem to be behind themselves.
I just have to call you out the 'reeks of oldness' from this paragraph. There's this thing called 'publication lead time'. Even for a digital medium such as DDI, there are layout and review steps that will be taken before publication that mean that if I submitted a proposal now I would probably not expect to see my bits on the site until May or June at the earliest. (Particularly with December and January being partial-work months for WotC/D&D staff, due to the holiday shutdown at WotC for Christmas/New Years and DDXP pulling staff offsite).
So, yeah, in-house authors are on shorter lead times than outside submitters, but the absolute least lead time still would require (in enterprises that want to not slip posting dates) that they have the article in hand to lay out and cook PDFs from by the time the editorial calendar is posted for the months. I don't see how this should 'reek of oldness'...
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3 years ago ::
Dec 04, 2009 - 10:00AM
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Aug 11, 2006
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It reeks of oldness, because of the publication time. By the time one book comes out, we got 2-3 more months to go at the very least before we start seeing things of that book taking hold in the magazine.
Thus there could be an overwelming amount of artificer goodies just sitting back in the que and not being released because of time and a low priority. Its been six months now since ebberon has been released. And nothing for artificer that I've seen.
I'd get along more with people if they didn't jump onto a hyberbole every single time you say something they don't understand.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 04, 2009 - 10:50AM
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There's this thing called 'publication lead time'. Even for a digital medium such as DDI, there are layout and review steps that will be taken before publication
Sure, but at least they don't also waste time on pointless playtesting 
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3 years ago ::
Dec 04, 2009 - 12:20PM
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Thus there could be an overwelming amount of artificer goodies just sitting back in the que and not being released because of time and a low priority. Its been six months now since ebberon has been released. And nothing for artificer that I've seen.
Except for last month's Dragon article...
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3 years ago ::
Dec 04, 2009 - 12:41PM
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Date Joined:
Dec 28, 2005
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Thus there could be an overwelming amount of artificer goodies just sitting back in the que and not being released because of time and a low priority. Its been six months now since ebberon has been released. And nothing for artificer that I've seen.
Except for last month's Dragon article...
Yeah, because an entire new class feature choice is clearly 'nothing'.
Personally, I would like to have seen support for primal warforged in Primal Power. if I worry about it enough, I'll cook up a proposal. If not... it's not something I expect to get a lot of traction internally at WotC.
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