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Dec 16, 2009 -- 6:04AM, Cailte wrote:

For me, as a DM in a home game, if a something is changed and the player says "Hey it doesn't fit my character anymore" I let them change it - no waiting around.

I'm interested in the players at my games having fun doing what they want with their characters, when I'm DMing I keep in mind that the rules are just guidelines. (When I'm not in a game I want to nail them down as tight as I can to make sure I have good guidelines when I'm in a game.)

Now clearly LFR needs more guidelines than my home game, but the underlying idea of "the players having fun" still holds.

These are the 2 questions that need to be answered when looking at what to do with the updates:

What is important to you when you are at the table?

Does it really matter to you if the other people at the table got to change the parts of their character because an update changed those parts of their character, as long as their character is still legal, and you had equal opportunity to do so?

Hopefully the first question has "fun" as one of the top 2 answers, and the second question has "no" as it's answer.

I have a character that only recently dumped her Veteran's Armor; I could have changed it, but there really wasn't anything else I wanted to have in that slot for the level. I think I even remembered the pip it gave a couple of times before it got replaced. I never once cared that no one else in the local play group, that I'm aware of, kept the item, what I cared about was that everyone at the table was having fun when we were playing the game.

If the updates are changing people's characters in such a way that their fun is being compromised (and it is their fun not mine or anyone elses remember) then I think they should be allowed to act reasonably to regain their fun.

Oh and BTW I was affected by the Grasp of the Grave fix, and I'm happy to keep the spell - less damage per round than Stinking Cloud but it is completely party friendly so I'm happy.

I like your argument.

In my weekly game that I DM, I'm very open to allowing my players to rebuild and select from wide varieties of content.  If a player is simply unhappy with how their character is going, I've often let them wander away from the adventuring group to have their new character wander in.  Other players who have been playing the same character have never expressed a concern - mostly they are too busy figuring out what their character would want to do next, and as long as the player next to them is enjoying the game, and playing a legal character, it's all good.

Fun, eh?
Live and let live, eh?

Novel arguments.

Good luck with them.